jcrome04 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 So I just heard Shell V-Power gas is nitrogen enriched... What purpose does this serve? Is it still mixed with ethanol like other fuels?? I currently fill with Chevron. I always have.. but would this nitrogen infused gasoline be better? I have just never heard of this business before! Enlighten me! :D :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfish Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Enlighten me also please.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djspawn00 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I've been using this stuff for some time now... probably about as useful as the nitrogen in my tires... which really isn't all that useful.. but it sounds fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadcutter Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 So I just heard Shell V-Power gas is nitrogen enriched... What purpose does this serve?Is it still mixed with ethanol like other fuels?? I currently fill with Chevron. I always have.. but would this nitrogen infused gasoline be better? I have just never heard of this business before! Enlighten me! :D :D :D j; There must be an echo in here..............You read my thought from about a month ago........ Since Nitrogen is an inert gas, I can't imagine that it does anything more than take up space......literally. I used to always stop at the same Shell station on my treks up to Vancouver, so I'd "enjoy" the "benefit" of all the new Shell ads. Can't say that any of them in the last three years have appeared to be anything other than dopey.........including "Nitrogen".........sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatingupblacktop Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Not sure how you would add nitrogen, a gas to gasoline, a liquid fuel. To get liquid nitrogen into a car's tank it would have to be at a temperature of about −196 °C, or about −321 °F. Since gasoline freezes at about -150F, not going to mix so well. This is of course providing you have an insulated tank and NASA's delivery systems and engines. Then again, they use solid fuel rockets don't they? :whistles: Anyway here's some info from 2005: http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-news...0547/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I laughed the first time I saw it too, Nitrogen won't do you any good in your gas. Stupid marketing ploy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrome04 Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 LOL. That's exactly what I thought. What the heck would nitrogen do in gasoline?? It's a GAS!!! unless you go to get a wart removed... you can pour a little LIQUID nitrogen into your gas tank? ? and all the sudden the POS you drive will turn into a Ford GT??? lol I didn't know if it really was legit given how crazy it sounds. once again... poor.... poor consumer :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky13 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 On the other hand I filled up there the other day and I looked around for the "enriched" with ethenol sign and didnt see it so hey, good deal there. Anything without ethenol is better. even if they do call a liquid additive "nitrogen" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRK Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 From what I can tell nitrogen is used as a cleaning agent, both to remove existing deposits and prevent new deposits. Apparently the element is part of most gasoline cleaning agents, not just Shell gasoline additives. Nitrogen is soluble in hydrocarbon fuels. It doesn't have to be a liquid to do so, much like carbon dioxide is soluble in water - like soda pop. I rather doubt it is a big deal. Just marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92LS99 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I filled up with this fuel twice now, just because of a route I have been taking to work and I feel no difference. What shell says is nitrogen creates a buffer zone that discourages build up and sticking of deposits on engine parts. The same crap as Techcroline probably. For our cars all that matter is pumping 91 and cleaning the fuel system every so often................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrome04 Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 I filled up with this fuel twice now, just because of a route I have been taking to work and I feel no difference. What shell says is nitrogen creates a buffer zone that discourages build up and sticking of deposits on engine parts. The same crap as Techcroline probably. For our cars all that matter is pumping 91 and cleaning the fuel system every so often................ Here here! I could never leave Chevron anyways! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSwine Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I worked for a Shell distributor for several years, but I'm not sure about the nitrogen angle. However, from talking to my friends still in the business, with gasoline around $2/gallon, you won't find much if any ethanol blends in gas stations now because the gasoline is cheaper (than the ethanol). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRK Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Gasoline has always been cheaper than ethanol, is now, and always will be. Ethanol is a boondoggle of the highest order. Absolute waste of time, like bio-diesel. North America (Canada and USA) consume over 140 million gallons of gasoline A DAY and over 75 million gallons of diesel A DAY. There is no way that peanut oil and corn will ever make a dent in crude oil consumption. Bunch of political garbage. And that's my gentle opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky13 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 On the other hand, you can make ethanol out of anything. Any kind of alchohal based wheat, barley.. Britan makes it out of sugarcane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRP Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 "Nitrogen Enriched" is just another way to sell gas. All of our gasoline comes through the same piplines, and Let's face it air is roughly 80% nitrogen, so the nitrogen "added" to Shell is insignificant, just as the nitrogen used in car tires. And if I remember my college chemistry correctly, nitrogen is slightly lighter than oxygen and will diffuse out of tires slightly faster than oxygen. Besides, Shell has "Resident Passionate Experts" on their website and also Shell has "V-Power". Somehow "passionate experts" and V-Power" seems sort of suggestive. Could Shell be Viagra for your car??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky13 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I get what your saying and it isnt even relative to topic to say this but "air" is not 80% Nitrogen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRK Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Well if you want to get fussy, no it's not 80%, nitrogen comprises 78% of dry atmospheric air, and oxygen about 21% and the rest is other gases (elements) like CO2 and argon. The dreaded CO2, for those that actually believe in anthropogenic global warming and have a picture of Albert Gore in their wallet, is .033% of our atmosphere. I like CO2 actually.....makes everything green..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Like the crap in the commercial that says it cleans the deposits from lower grade gas then says it protects from them forming again . Does this not mean it causes the same deposits it has to protect itself from? Shell is a bunch of idiots in marketing and are always trying to pull the fluff over such as the ferrari commercials . I was actually at a focus group for them , when i asked what they did or how it helped they didn't answer and rudely went to the next persons question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklouis Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Here is the bottom line fellas...FILLER!! when you buy Maxwell House Coffee, or Foldgers, or even Dog Food...they all have FILLER in them. meaning less "true" product for more money. 90% Gas, %10 Nitrogen is just a marketing scheme as some of you are saying is true. inactive Nitrogen wont hurt the fuel system nor will it improve it....but its super cheap and people buy into the idea!! just look in a can of regular coffee and you will see the off-color product in there - that is just filler. next time you buy an expensive name brand of coffee, a bag of Starbucks for example look at the difference in the texture of the product...big difference! Problem is we can choose what kind of Coffee we want, but we cant choose what Gas goes into our vehicle, we cant see, or chemically compare the product. go figure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky13 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I gues it comes down to whether you want 10% nitrogen or 10% ethanol in your fuel. Choose your filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklouis Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I gues it comes down to whether you want 10% nitrogen or 10% ethanol in your fuel. Choose your filler. yes, with a free carwash to boot! Ethanol??? ...im not going to open that can of worms right now. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrome04 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 I have never never been a fan of Shell. And this just drives the nail further into the coffin. I wonder if Shell adds ethanol as well as nitrogen. DOUBLE STUFT!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklouis Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I have never never been a fan of Shell. And this just drives the nail further into the coffin. I wonder if Shell adds ethanol as well as nitrogen. DOUBLE STUFT!!! lol i dont doubt that! 10%Nitrogen, 10% ethanol, 10% V-power, 5% water. Now your only getting 65% Gasoline....but hey! better for the "enviroment" right? jus kiddin' viromental folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky13 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Actually some places, especially overseas, are adding very large percentages of ethanal to their gasoline. We shouldn't be to far behind the hippie movement.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrome04 Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 Considering ethanol makes 95% of vehicles run LESS efficiently... Wouldn't it be a smarter thing to be using 100% gasoline so vehicles can burn fuel most efficiently?? So water gas down with ethanol... and most cars get LESS MPGs...... Make any sense to anyone other than granolas?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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