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Where?! I've never seen any such failures on here...

If it says that in the manual then I would be comfortable using 87...I would probably still use 93 though.

The door handles should be body colored... You'll want to treat them like the paint on the rest of the car. Try a hand polish like scratch-x.

Yeah, put in one part Woolite, 5 equal parts water...and mix it up.

Yeah the ES350 has always had dual exhaust. Its not true dual exhaust, it just feeds off one line from the engine and splits at the back like most FWD cars with dual exhaust. All the other Lexus sedans have a strip of chrome mouldings on the doors in the same spot, the ES always looked cheap because it didn't follow the line right there, I'm pleased with that too. Door moldings aren't in line with the new Lexus styling theme. If you want them they sell them, are dealer installed, and actually look pretty good. They're about $200. You can buy them for your '09 too...

Here are the other pictures you mentioned, again courtesy of CL: I like it...we'll see what the interior looks like, thats always been my issue with the 350...

BIG changes for 2010, the car was all new. Yeah its actually not a compact car at all, its an EPA midsized size class. The CC deposit wasn't BS, with the cash for clunkers program they are VERY hard to get.

How do you like the Highlander vs the RX?

One thing that frustrates me a little about Lexus lately is these refreshes seem to be changes they make just for the sake of making changes. Like the latest IS refresh this isn't a whole lot... I wonder what changes they made to the interior...

They like me....they really like me!

Really? I love the interior of the new RX...its the exterior that I think is a little ungainly. I think that new interior is one of the best I've seen in a vehicle in some time... The IS ugly?!?! I'm surprised you feel that way too...I don't see how someone could think the IS is ugly...

Really?!? Wow I am really surprised. My dad bought his 98 LS at Lindsay back in the day and he serviced it there many times and I've serviced my ES there too. I've always been very pleased with them. Pohanka on the other hand is a different story, and for some reason all their CPO cars look rough... You bought another car from them after your experience?!? You're kidding...

Nice! The Nav is worth it just for the backup camera IMHO. Yeah the power seats would be nice, but be THRILLED with the seat adjustments. Our 04 Prius is fully loaded and has NO seat adjustments. They go forward and backward and recline...thats it. Its one of the major gripes about the previous Prius and everyone was ELATED when the '10 had a full set of adjustments. Its good you were able to get a Prius without a wait too...Now off to join www.priuschat.com with you! I'm on there too...you think we're nuts? Those people are nuts.

LOL!

I even go one step further and get a trade offer from Carmax or another local dealer that will buy cars without selling one first...

Thats hilarious lol

I don't think so either LMAO. I know you were! So was I. Lets be friends!

Which is why I usually seperate my trade and my purchase.

Yep in '04 that was stipulated, but not with 03 on down and I don't believe with 07+

With all due respect, you really don't have a good picture of what you are talking about. Your situation is unfortunate and we've all been supportive, but I have done business with car dealerships for many years and I can tell you first hand that most of them are run by very honorable businesspeople in a field that it is increasingly difficult to make a living in. Its a two way street, and when you are a salesman with a family to feed and work on 100% commission and a customer comes in with a Edmunds printout trying to take every dollar of the whopping $300 you'd make by selling him a car...you might over time get to a point where people would think you are nasty and underhanded too. Its a two way street, and car buyers give it back to car dealers as good as they get it. People aren't interested in a fair deal that benefits everyone anymore. That is exactly how car dealerships would like to do business, however most consumers don't care about customer service and have zero loyalty, so they will leave the dealership that has invested time and effort into helping them over $500. Over time...salespeople start to expect thats going to happen and start cutting out the customer service, even when they have a consumer who won't actually treat them that way. The real reason all these dealerships are closing though is because detroit automakers are cancelling their franchise agreements, in many cases with dealerships that are very profitable.

Definately. Burning a lower octane fuel in a engine designed to run higher octane fuel can result in carbon buildup, catalytic converter failure. Google it. The question isn't really so much will it cause damage, but can they blame any failure that may happen on the use of below reccomended octane fuel and void my warranty? And the answer is yes. Again...its up to each of you but to me even the chance of reducing the longevity of expensive vehicle components, reducing performance and fuel economy, or taking a chance that a warranty claim on a component could be denied is worth the extra $4 per tank for the fuel. Hell...I already spent $40,000, and if I were pinching pennies to where $4 per week hurt me...I shouldn't be in this class of a car. What I find funny is people who refuse to use the fuel the manufacturer specifies but then use synthetic oil...

Well then if you've already got it all figured out...guess you don't need us. Thread closed.

Of course they knew. If Carmax could figure it out...they could have when they did the CPO inspection. If they didn't know then they didn't do the CPO inspection which is equally as bad. The whole point of paying extra for the CPO is that they know...in fact now you get a free Carfax for the CPO and its guaranteed to be clean! Frame work IMMEDIATELY disqualifies it for CPO as per Lexus' guidelines. Was this Pohanka Lexus? However, you have learned a valuable lesson. Don't let the party who is going to make the sale explain away carfax problems, have the car looked at by an independent party before you buy. I'm pretty surprised that you let them explain away frame damage on the Carfax...yikes...

Oh I beg to differ. The reaction of RX300 owners to the RX330 was just as bad as this. I still personally think the RX300 was a better looking vehicle than the RX330-350 but the 04-09 has grown on me. I think "disgusted" by the interior of the ES350 is a little harsh. Dissapointed sure, but its not disgusting, its just not as luxurious looking as the previous interior.

Congrats! Which package did you get?