amcdonal86 Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Sorry to make so many threads, but I'm looking to replace my tires soon. Right now the car has some Dunlop 4000 somethings, and they are pretty close to reaching the wear bars. I'm basically looking to put new tires on the car for less than $400 (including mounting/balancing). I would like for the tires to last about 50k miles, have decent grip in rain (possibly snow) and--most importantly--be very quiet! Any ideas? Thanks!
1990LS400 Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Based on the requirements you have provided, I think you are looking for ... a miracle! Even if you don't buy from them, Tire Rack's website is a good place to compare tires: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp...mp;x=47&y=4 The ratings and survey results on Tire Rack can be helpful. The Dunlop 4000 was not the best tire but that is how my 2000 LS400 was equipped when it was sold new; they were shot by the time I bought the car used at 38,000 miles. The Dunlop 4000 tires sure was cheap. I bought 8 or 12 the last time I bought them at only about $50 each and am currently using the last of the 4000s on our Camry V6. Our 90 LS and Camry used the same tire size so I sometimes bought a butt-load of tires of the same size at a time. Even when I used all season tires on my 90 LS, I always used snow tires on it in the winter. Very quiet tires usually do not have very good snow grip. I use directional summer tires (not all season) in spring, summer, fall on my 00 LS and use heavy duty winter tires (with the mountain/snowflake logo on the sidewall) in the winter so I don't have to compromise on performance at any time of the year.
amcdonal86 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 Based on the requirements you have provided, I think you are looking for ... a miracle!Even if you don't buy from them, Tire Rack's website is a good place to compare tires: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp...mp;x=47&y=4 The ratings and survey results on Tire Rack can be helpful. The Dunlop 4000 was not the best tire but that is how my 2000 LS400 was equipped when it was sold new; they were shot by the time I bought the car used at 38,000 miles. The Dunlop 4000 tires sure was cheap. I bought 8 or 12 the last time I bought them at only about $50 each and am currently using the last of the 4000s on our Camry V6. Our 90 LS and Camry used the same tire size so I sometimes bought a butt-load of tires of the same size at a time. Even when I used all season tires on my 90 LS, I always used snow tires on it in the winter. Very quiet tires usually do not have very good snow grip. I use directional summer tires (not all season) in spring, summer, fall on my 00 LS and use heavy duty winter tires (with the mountain/snowflake logo on the sidewall) in the winter so I don't have to compromise on performance at any time of the year. I guess the most important thing is to get a quiet tire with good tread life that is cheap. I just don't want it to get me killed in the rain!
PureDrifter Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Based on the requirements you have provided, I think you are looking for ... a miracle!Even if you don't buy from them, Tire Rack's website is a good place to compare tires: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp...mp;x=47&y=4 The ratings and survey results on Tire Rack can be helpful. The Dunlop 4000 was not the best tire but that is how my 2000 LS400 was equipped when it was sold new; they were shot by the time I bought the car used at 38,000 miles. The Dunlop 4000 tires sure was cheap. I bought 8 or 12 the last time I bought them at only about $50 each and am currently using the last of the 4000s on our Camry V6. Our 90 LS and Camry used the same tire size so I sometimes bought a butt-load of tires of the same size at a time. Even when I used all season tires on my 90 LS, I always used snow tires on it in the winter. Very quiet tires usually do not have very good snow grip. I use directional summer tires (not all season) in spring, summer, fall on my 00 LS and use heavy duty winter tires (with the mountain/snowflake logo on the sidewall) in the winter so I don't have to compromise on performance at any time of the year. I guess the most important thing is to get a quiet tire with good tread life that is cheap. I just don't want it to get me killed in the rain! again, that's asking a lot, especially for that price range. i've had good experience with the Yokohama AVID V4s and YK500 (or the like), as well as the General Exclaim UHP (not sure if it's available in OEM sizing, i had it on my old 18"s)
astar617 Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Based on the requirements you have provided, I think you are looking for ... a miracle!Even if you don't buy from them, Tire Rack's website is a good place to compare tires: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp...mp;x=47&y=4 The ratings and survey results on Tire Rack can be helpful. The Dunlop 4000 was not the best tire but that is how my 2000 LS400 was equipped when it was sold new; they were shot by the time I bought the car used at 38,000 miles. The Dunlop 4000 tires sure was cheap. I bought 8 or 12 the last time I bought them at only about $50 each and am currently using the last of the 4000s on our Camry V6. Our 90 LS and Camry used the same tire size so I sometimes bought a butt-load of tires of the same size at a time. Even when I used all season tires on my 90 LS, I always used snow tires on it in the winter. Very quiet tires usually do not have very good snow grip. I use directional summer tires (not all season) in spring, summer, fall on my 00 LS and use heavy duty winter tires (with the mountain/snowflake logo on the sidewall) in the winter so I don't have to compromise on performance at any time of the year. I guess the most important thing is to get a quiet tire with good tread life that is cheap. I just don't want it to get me killed in the rain! again, that's asking a lot, especially for that price range. i've had good experience with the Yokohama AVID V4s and YK500 (or the like), as well as the General Exclaim UHP (not sure if it's available in OEM sizing, i had it on my old 18"s) On my old 525i I ran H-rated Toyo Proxes TPTs and really enjoyed them. Weren't terribly loud, good grip, and had something like a 60k mi treadwear guarantee... It was something like $110 mounted per corner including free front end alignment and lifetime road hazard protection/rotations/snow tire swaps. Might have been less, don't really remember as it was around 04 or so. When I need tires on my new-to-me 96 LS400 I'd buy TPTs again.
VBdenny Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 I have BF Goodrich Traction TA/V tires on my 90LS and they were around $400 from tirerack if I remember correctly but that wan't mounted. On my 04ES I have Yokohama Avid V'4 tires which are excellent unless you get in snow with them. I just bought a set of Firestone Winterforce snow tires and rims for the ES from the tirerack for about $650. My wife drives it in NY in the winter so I figured snow tires might be prudent. Since you live in Fairfax, you do get a little snow so I would probably go with the BFG's. Unless you drive flat out, you can probably run the "H" version rather than the "V". You will save money on the purchase and get extended treadware at a minimal loss of handling at extremes. Spend the time on tirerack carefully reading the reviews and ratings so you get exactly what you want. In my opinion, "cheap" and "tires" should not be used together :)
amcdonal86 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 Okay, let's try it this way! All of these tires are within my price range--which one is best? Tires: Falken Ziex ZE-512 Pirelli Cinturato P5 Falken Ziex ZE-912 Hankook Optimo H418 Yokohama Avid Touring I appreciate all of your help!
Lexusfreak Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 The Falken Ziex 512's are a very decent tire for the money......funny thing, it has been replaced with the Ziex 912....& I've heard many complaints that the new version is not as good.....especially in rain. Best value for your money I can find on tire rack are these... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...;speed_rating=V And they are 'V' speed rated to boot & $8.00 cheaper per tire than the H speed rated H4S....which is pretty much the same tire. Long treadlife rating with a traction rating of AA & temperature rating of A. I doubt you will find a better overall tire than these for your price range with excellent wet weather performance......and I would say these are better than the Falken's. The Yoko Avid touring I think you will find too soft. Let us know what you decide.
eatingupblacktop Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 Not on your list and I don't know how they would compare with your list, I've got a set of Michelin Energy. Don't know what they retail for but I find them quiet, good in the rain with long treadwear. For snow, use snow tires.
Lexusfreak Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 Michelins are definately an excellent choice.....but well over $100 each I'm afraid.
eatingupblacktop Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 Personally, I'd save a few more bucks and get a better grade of tire. Less headaches with tires that are out of round, tread that's not true, noise, ride, etc. Treat the tire selection as you would part selection. In the end, you get what you pay for.
amcdonal86 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Posted January 7, 2009 The Falken Ziex 512's are a very decent tire for the money......funny thing, it has been replaced with the Ziex 912....& I've heard many complaints that the new version is not as good.....especially in rain.Best value for your money I can find on tire rack are these... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...;speed_rating=V And they are 'V' speed rated to boot & $8.00 cheaper per tire than the H speed rated H4S....which is pretty much the same tire. Long treadlife rating with a traction rating of AA & temperature rating of A. I doubt you will find a better overall tire than these for your price range with excellent wet weather performance......and I would say these are better than the Falken's. The Yoko Avid touring I think you will find too soft. Let us know what you decide. Thanks! I have had both Ziex ZE 512s and Ziex ZE 912s on the Miata I had, and I've also had ZE 512s on a Honda Accord. They were a bit too noisy for my taste, and tread life was not that good, although my driving style was a little more intense with that sports car. About the Yokohama Avid Touring, are those tires nice and quiet? I have no problem with soft tires (this is a soft car, after all!). I may end up getting those.
Lexusfreak Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 Thanks! I have had both Ziex ZE 512s and Ziex ZE 912s on the Miata I had, and I've also had ZE 512s on a Honda Accord. They were a bit too noisy for my taste, and tread life was not that good, although my driving style was a little more intense with that sports car.About the Yokohama Avid Touring, are those tires nice and quiet? I have no problem with soft tires (this is a soft car, after all!). I may end up getting those. They should be just fine in the quiet department. More info here... http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid_touring_s.aspx Don't overlook the Yokohama Avid TRZ either.....a little more money, but a longer treadlife & T speed rated... http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid_trz.aspx And here... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...yes&place=1
amcdonal86 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Posted January 7, 2009 Thanks! I have had both Ziex ZE 512s and Ziex ZE 912s on the Miata I had, and I've also had ZE 512s on a Honda Accord. They were a bit too noisy for my taste, and tread life was not that good, although my driving style was a little more intense with that sports car.About the Yokohama Avid Touring, are those tires nice and quiet? I have no problem with soft tires (this is a soft car, after all!). I may end up getting those. They should be just fine in the quiet department. More info here... http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid_touring_s.aspx Don't overlook the Yokohama Avid TRZ either.....a little more money, but a longer treadlife & T speed rated... http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid_trz.aspx And here... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...yes&place=1 Hmmm.... those TRZs look good. I'll let you guys know what I decide. I just thought there was some sort of tried-and-tested standard tire that everyone gets on the LS400 that didn't cost too much. I know a lot of people get those Falkens on Mazda Miatas.
Lexusfreak Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 Hmmm.... those TRZs look good. I'll let you guys know what I decide.I just thought there was some sort of tried-and-tested standard tire that everyone gets on the LS400 that didn't cost too much. I know a lot of people get those Falkens on Mazda Miatas. Many folks get Michelins for their LS.....it all depends on what your looking for, price range, where you live (IE: winter conditions or rain) etc.
amcdonal86 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Posted January 7, 2009 Hmmm.... those TRZs look good. I'll let you guys know what I decide.I just thought there was some sort of tried-and-tested standard tire that everyone gets on the LS400 that didn't cost too much. I know a lot of people get those Falkens on Mazda Miatas. Many folks get Michelins for their LS.....it all depends on what your looking for, price range, where you live (IE: winter conditions or rain) etc. Are you referring to Michelin Energy tires?
Lexusfreak Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 Are you referring to Michelin Energy tires? Correct.
VBdenny Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 Yokohama Avid Touring The best choice. I have Avid H'4's on the Corolla and Avid V'4's on the ES. Just an excellent tires.
don corleone Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 yokohama's get good ratings on tirerack.com. also do not count out Kumho's. they get great ratings from Benz owners and other owners of high end luxury cars.
billydpowell Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 Sorry to make so many threads, but I'm looking to replace my tires soon. Right now the car has some Dunlop 4000 somethings, and they are pretty close to reaching the wear bars.I'm basically looking to put new tires on the car for less than $400 (including mounting/balancing). I would like for the tires to last about 50k miles, have decent grip in rain (possibly snow) and--most importantly--be very quiet! Any ideas? Thanks! I have Michelin HydroEdge on mine, no slip n sliding and they seem to wear like iron
Marklouis Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 I have 8k miles on my General Altimax's, so far a great tire for the price, and has handled the LS nicely. :D I researched on tireRack as well, and decided these were the best bang for the buck. Read the consumer reviews also.
ArmyofOne Posted January 9, 2009 Posted January 9, 2009 I have 8k miles on my General Altimax's, so far a great tire for the price, and has handled the LS nicely. :D I researched on tireRack as well, and decided these were the best bang for the buck. Read the consumer reviews also. They are about $112 a piece, but The goodyear assurance comfortread is the QUIETEST tire i have ever had....and i have had alot.
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