speedshift Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 I went to the Toyota today to find out how much they would charge to do a complete transmission flush. $90. I asked him if they do a complete flush along with a new filter and he says "No, we don't change a filter". I tell him that from what I know there is a filter of some sort behind a cover once you pull the transmission pan off. He looks at me like I'm an idiot and tells me that this isn't like an oil change and there isn't just a plug to drain the fluid... duh. But I find out that when they change the fluid they do it through the tranny lines which from what I've read is the best method of doing it. But I'm still skeptical because I thought you should change the filter as long as you're changing the fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toysrme Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Go back and call him ignorant. Every Toyota A/T I can recall a transmission code for has a transmission filter. You've got it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 He is not ignorant toys, Toyota does not regard the mesh as a filter . It is a screen that is a non servicable item.A filter is a consumable item which does require replacment and is no where listed in the "EPC" as one.. BTW most modern toyotas do have a drain plug on the bottom of the tranny pan including yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 The mechanic is partly right - there is no filter to replace. But there is a cleanable metal mesh filter screen that filters non-magnetic metal wear particles and clutch wear debris. However this filter rarely becomes restricted and normally doesn't need to be cleaned for at least 150,000 miles. Figure half that mileage if the car is driven in an aggressive and hurried 2 Fast 2 Furious manner as many teens and young male adults do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camlex Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Same money and same way you decribed, I did my trans. flush at Toyota for $99. He ask for $149 if i wanted to drop pan, change filter and flush(without chemical). With chemical price was $199. After 10,000 I did again with pan drop and change filter. cost was $55 at my mechanic. That's the way toyota flush Trans. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviej Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Figure half that mileage if the car is driven in an aggressive and hurried 2 Fast 2 Furious manner as many teens and young male adults do. ← monarch, don't start this crap again!!! <_< or I will have to post the story about a 56 year old man that decided to race another gentleman in his 40s. I guess it was one midlifer testing his Ligenfelter Corvette against the other distinguished gentleman's Ferrari. I sum of the tickets issued was in excess of $800. steviej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedshift Posted September 14, 2005 Author Share Posted September 14, 2005 Good info, thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Toyota does not regard the mesh as a filter .It is a screen that is a non servicable item. A filter is a consumable item which does require replacment and is no where listed in the "EPC" as one.. ← Toyota transmission factory overhaul manuals regard the metal mesh as a "filter screen" and call the whole assembly an "oil strainer". Specifically, the factory transmission overhaul manual says this: "Oil Strainer: Check the filter screen for clogging condition. Wash the oil strainer thoroughly, especially the filter case and the filter screen." Depending on the transmission model, the factory manual also instructs the service tech to use one or two new oil strainer gaskets when installing the new strainer to the valve body after cleaning (although on some models no gasket is needed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 monarch, don't start this crap again!!! or I will have to post the story about a 56 year old man that decided to race another ← Do you know any 56 year old's who call themselves "speedshift"? "Cialisman" maybe, but not speedshift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexusfreak Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 If doing a complete 100% fluid change, have the mesh screen cleaned at the same time, but no need to replace it as it's reusable. Consider as a preventitive measure replacing the tranny pan gasket too. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mburnickas Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 We are all talking/posting about the expensive$25 filter/mesh whatever you want to call it I change the filter/mesh everyother time and the gasket...Total price is $35...HUGE price ha.... You can clean it if you want. Plus I do not know who would go 150,000 miles on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxavier2k Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 I wouldn't advise cleaning the filter/screen but you could check it for fibres that could suggest worn clutches. The cleaning doesn't ever get it totally clean. Be sure to take sk's advise and getthe inine filter as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 WHy7 wouldn't you advise on cleaning the mesh? I cleaned mine very well after i let it sit in solution . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toysrme Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 <- dumbass. I would clean it. Same thing as my oil screen, they were both ultra filled with crap. mburnickas has a good point about replacing them. If you don't change your ATF, or oil regularly I would change it as the fluids become very acidic. (Especially oil when coolant gets in it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxavier2k Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 I wouldn't advise cleaning the filter/screen but you could check it for fibres that could suggest worn clutches. The cleaning doesn't ever get it totally clean. Be sure to take sk's advise and getthe inine filter as well. ← I guess it was just my experience. Because of the shape of the filter container some metal shards/fibres will remain even after the cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxavier2k Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 <- dumbass.I would clean it. Same thing as my oil screen, they were both ultra filled with crap. mburnickas has a good point about replacing them. If you don't change your ATF, or oil regularly I would change it as the fluids become very acidic. (Especially oil when coolant gets in it) ← With all of your excellent tech advice it's a pity that you aren't mature enough to respect the opinions of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camlex Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 You just replace the filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviej Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 <- dumbass.I would clean it. Same thing as my oil screen, they were both ultra filled with crap. mburnickas has a good point about replacing them. If you don't change your ATF, or oil regularly I would change it as the fluids become very acidic. (Especially oil when coolant gets in it) ← With all of your excellent tech advice it's a pity that you aren't mature enough to respect the opinions of others. ← yeah, xxxavier, I caught that too, but then I interpreted it as an arrow pointing to his own avatar, then I thought maybe it was an icon code that lost the right side bracket. Actually, now, I am not sure what it means. I will give Toysrme a chance to explain the "<-dumbass" comment and fix it or I am just going to remove it. I am not sure whom it is directed at. steviej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toysrme Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 .................................................................... H o w o n E a r t h can <- not mean me... I mean seriously... What kind of logic is happening? There is a few hundred pixels to post, obviously <- lines up with my set LoL! WTF at the reaction to the question that I am calling anyone else a dumbass. Seriously guys... < left > right ^ reflects above ^^ above 2 etc. However if I can't call myself a dumbass, I would like the chance to reflect on my actions and edit my own post ROTF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxavier2k Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Ohhh sorry my bad! <- idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviej Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 yeah, my bad too <--- sarcastic moderator toys, you need to cool your attitude. It is becoming apparent in this and several other threads. steviej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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