wolfe1 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 My wife is getting ready to buy the '05 RX330, AWD with the Premium Package. I am not a fan of AWD systems and know little about them- (I am a Jeep guy who likes solid axles, lockers, and true selectable transfer cases.) Has this transmission nightmare been worked out? We can only get the AWD here in the midwest. If the general concensus is to change the trans fluid every 15k I am going to try to derail my wife from this buy- kinda seems ridiculous, much like having to go to the dealer for software updates so the vehicle shifts right. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RX in NC Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Take my word for it, as a Jeep guy you'll be miserable with the RX transmission. I'm a Jeep guy too and both my wife and I despise the transmission in her RX. It's been by far the most problematic vehicle we've ever owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexus411 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I put 45k miles on mine and did not have a problem. Premium gas seemed to do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rx330driver Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 why dont you jsut test drive it? i have no problems on my AWD except for the minor hesitation from time to time. you'll get used to it. plus, other things in the car make up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfe1 Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 why dont you jsut test drive it? i have no problems on my AWD except for the minor hesitation from time to time. you'll get used to it. plus, other things in the car make up for it. ← I did test drive it - last night. I felt the lag and asked the sales person about it- before I had ever looked for info on it - who replied it had a "smart transmission" that would learn my driving habits- then she went into how cute my 2 year old son was and how the airbags would keep him safe- she knew nothing about cars- like sitting next to a talking brochure. I am now learning about the brake booster issue. Not sure which direction to go- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenore Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 why dont you jsut test drive it? i have no problems on my AWD except for the minor hesitation from time to time. you'll get used to it. plus, other things in the car make up for it. ← I did test drive it - last night. I felt the lag and asked the sales person about it- before I had ever looked for info on it - who replied it had a "smart transmission" that would learn my driving habits- then she went into how cute my 2 year old son was and how the airbags would keep him safe- she knew nothing about cars- like sitting next to a talking brochure. I am now learning about the brake booster issue. Not sure which direction to go- ← Do yourself a favor, my wife drove three loaner RX330 vehicles while her RX300 was getting its 2nd and 3rd trashmission ( oh sorry) She hated the shifting in the RX330 and found the hesistation very alarming in heavy traffic. Visability was poor in the rear the rest of the vehicle was ok. You would be much happier in a Toyota 4runner with a lot more reliablity as well as something that would perform as well as your jeep or better. That my 2 cents worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rx330driver Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 why dont you jsut test drive it? i have no problems on my AWD except for the minor hesitation from time to time. you'll get used to it. plus, other things in the car make up for it. ← I did test drive it - last night. I felt the lag and asked the sales person about it- before I had ever looked for info on it - who replied it had a "smart transmission" that would learn my driving habits- then she went into how cute my 2 year old son was and how the airbags would keep him safe- she knew nothing about cars- like sitting next to a talking brochure. I am now learning about the brake booster issue. Not sure which direction to go- ← Do yourself a favor, my wife drove three loaner RX330 vehicles while her RX300 was getting its 2nd and 3rd trashmission ( oh sorry) She hated the shifting in the RX330 and found the hesistation very alarming in heavy traffic. Visability was poor in the rear the rest of the vehicle was ok. You would be much happier in a Toyota 4runner with a lot more reliablity as well as something that would perform as well as your jeep or better. That my 2 cents worth. ← visbility is poor, i wont lie to you, but i have the backup camera which is a lot of help. the visibility is just like the rx300 tho. also, i dont think everyone is talking about the same thing in hesitation. My definition of it is when u first accelerate and theres just this 1 second moment where the car lags and then tries to make up for the loss of time so it jolts forward a little. also, it does learn your driving habits so during the break in period, drive like a grandma. that is if you get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenore Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 why dont you jsut test drive it? i have no problems on my AWD except for the minor hesitation from time to time. you'll get used to it. plus, other things in the car make up for it. ← I did test drive it - last night. I felt the lag and asked the sales person about it- before I had ever looked for info on it - who replied it had a "smart transmission" that would learn my driving habits- then she went into how cute my 2 year old son was and how the airbags would keep him safe- she knew nothing about cars- like sitting next to a talking brochure. I am now learning about the brake booster issue. Not sure which direction to go- ← Do yourself a favor, my wife drove three loaner RX330 vehicles while her RX300 was getting its 2nd and 3rd trashmission ( oh sorry) She hated the shifting in the RX330 and found the hesistation very alarming in heavy traffic. Visability was poor in the rear the rest of the vehicle was ok. You would be much happier in a Toyota 4runner with a lot more reliablity as well as something that would perform as well as your jeep or better. That my 2 cents worth. ← visbility is poor, i wont lie to you, but i have the backup camera which is a lot of help. the visibility is just like the rx300 tho. also, i dont think everyone is talking about the same thing in hesitation. My definition of it is when u first accelerate and theres just this 1 second moment where the car lags and then tries to make up for the loss of time so it jolts forward a little. also, it does learn your driving habits so during the break in period, drive like a grandma. that is if you get it. ← That hesitation is the fly by wire computer control on the transmission. The learning mode is an example to cover up for the poor performance of the transmission and quite frankly, it probably will not improve after you supposedly teach it to shift. What happened to the smooth shift of the old trannys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Here's an example of the kinds of troubles a 1999 4WD JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE owner has to deal with: Automotive Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 1999 Jeep Truck Grand Cherokee 4WD L6-4.0L VIN S. Safety Recalls TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title B06 MAY 02 Recall - Intake Manifold Debris Shield 866 FEB 00 Recall - Shoulder Belt Height Adjuster Bolt 809 DEC 98 Recall - Rear Outboard Seat Belts Emissions Recalls TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title 839 SEP 99 Recall - Reprogram PCM 840 SEP 99 Recall - Sensor Wiring Heat Shield 807 APR 99 Recall - VECI Replacement General Recalls TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title C07 FEB 03 Campaign - Avoiding Unintentional Vehicle Movement 874 JUN 00 Recall - Incorrect Instrument Printed Circuit Installed Service Bulletins TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title 02-002-04A MAY 04 Suspension - Front Suspension Squeak/Squawk Noises 23-009-04 MAR 04 Interior - Popping/Clicking Noise in Front Seat Frame 23-026-03 OCT 03 Body - Poor Air Deflector to Hood Fit 18-031-03 SEP 03 Fuel System - Hot Start Misfire/MIL ON/DTC's/Rough Idle 21-009-03 AUG 03 A/T - Diagnostic Teardown Procedure 03-002-03 AUG 03 Drivetrain - Rear Axle Vent Cap Leakage 19-003-03 AUG 03 Steering Column - Pop/Tick From Steering Wheel Area 09-003-03 AUG 03 Engine - Multiple Cylinder Misfire 23-015-03 JUN 03 Body - Wind Noise from Top Rear of Front Doors 05-003-02B DEC 02 Brakes - Pulsation During Light to Moderate Application 24-009-02 OCT 02 A/C - System Leak Detection 03-003-02A OCT 02 Drivetrain - Rear Axle High Pitched Whining Sound 18-020-02 JUN 02 Engine Controls - Flash Reprogramming Failure 23-020-02 MAY 02 Liftgate - Will Not Open Correctly 19-005-02 MAY 02 Power Steering - Honking Noise 23-015-02 APR 02 Outside Rearview Mirror - Glass Replacement 08-007-02 MAR 02 Keyless Entry - Programming Procedure 08-004-01B DEC 01 Seat Heater - Inoperative 08-025-01 NOV 01 Air Bag - On/Off Switches 21-011-01 NOV 01 Transfer Case - Fluid Seepage 19-009-01 OCT 01 Driver Airbag - Trim Cover Service 05-005-01A SEP 01 Brakes - Roughness Or Pedal Pulsation 03-001-01A SEP 01 Front Drive Axle - Whining Sound 08-010-01 MAY 01 Airbag/Clock Spring - Service 18-012-01 MAY 01 Generic Scan Tool - Reference Information 24-007-01 MAY 01 A/C - Automatic Temperature Control Setting Changes 25-004-01 MAY 01 Evaporative System - Leak & DTC Diagnostics 14-002-01 MAR 01 Fuel Pump - Long Cranking Time to Start Engine 18-001-01 JAN 01 Engine Performance - Enhancements 08-006-00A DEC 00 Wiring - Revised Splicing Procedure 26-012-00N DEC 00 Electrical - Wiring Updates 23-008-00B NOV 00 Child Seat - Tether Anchor Part Numbers & Labor Time 23-041-00 NOV 00 Roof Rack - Optimum Positioning Instructions 23-038-00 OCT 00 Seat Belt - Turning Loop Cover Replacement 03-08-00 SEP 00 Differential Cover - Updated Sealer & Fluid 23-30-00 AUG 00 Seatbelts - Slow To Retract 03-04-00 JUN 00 Rear Propeller Shaft - Intermittent Stop-Bump 26-06-00A JUN 00 Electrical - Wiring Schematic/Connector Pin-Out Updates 14-06-00 JUN 00 Engine/Fuel Pump - Abnormally long Crank Time 23-17-00 MAY 00 Cargo Cover - Inoperative 26-05-00H MAY 00 Electrical - Connector Pin-Out Updates 08-11-00 MAR 00 CD Player - CD Compatibility 08-08-00 MAR 00 Keyless Entry Transmitter - Intermittently Inoperative 21-03-00 MAR 00 Transfer Case - Sector Shaft Leakage 23-10-00 MAR 00 Window Regulator - Sticks at Top Of Travel 26-03-00F MAR 00 Cooling System - Radiator Fan Shroud Service Update 08-03-00 FEB 00 Power Door Locks/Windows/Mirrors/RKE - Erratic Operation 21-01-00 FEB 00 A/T - Harsh Reverse Gear Engagement 24-01-00 FEB 00 Driver Side Floor Duct - Inadequate Air Flow 18-01-00 FEB 00 EVAP System - Leak Detection Pump Misdiagnosis 26-01-00I JAN 00 Drive Axles/Electrical - Specification/Schematic Update 02-11-99A DEC 99 Front Driveline - Vibration/Noise/Harshness 02-06-99A DEC 99 Front Hub Seals - Grease Purge Explanation 24-06-99A DEC 99 Heater-A/C Housing - Condensation Formation 26-12-99L DEC 99 Electrical - Wiring Schematics Revisions 03-08-99 NOV 99 Differential - Pinion Nut/Spacer Update 18-25-99 NOV 99 PCM - Erroneous Engine Misfire 24-24-99 NOV 99 Heater A/C System - Defaults To Defrost Mode 24-25-99 NOV 99 Plenum Seal - Cold Air Leaks To Footwell 05-02-99A OCT 99 Front Brakes - Roughness/Pedal Pulsation 14-05-99 OCT 99 Fuel System Pressure Loss - Diagnostic Procedures 26-10-99E OCT 99 ABS System - 'No Response' Test Revisions 23-35-99A OCT 99 Child Seat Tether Anchor - Labor/Parts Identification 23-38-99 OCT 99 Roof Joint Molding - Distorted/Protruding 03-05-99 SEP 99 Differential/Drive Axle - Diagnosis 08-12-99A SEP 99 Electronic Vehicle Information Center - Wrong Value 24-16-99 AUG 99 A/C - AZC Module, Innacurate Temperature Settings 02-12-99 AUG 99 Front End Alignment - Adjustable/Offset Ball Joints 21-01-99A AUG 99 NV 247 Transfer Case - Low Speed Grinding 21-01-99 AUG 99 Transfer Case - NV 247 Low Speed Grinding Noise. 02-10-99 JUL 99 Tie Rod And Drag Link Sleeve - Bolt Torque Revision 08-23-99 JUL 99 Radio Communication Equipment - Recommendations 05-05-99 JUN 99 Brake Rotors - Match Mounting 18-12-99 JUN 99 Leak Detection Pump - Monitor Test 18-13-99 JUN 99 PCM - Engine No Start Condition 08-20-99 JUN 99 Sunroof - Revised `Express Open' Position 08-16-99A JUN 99 RKE Transmitter - Is Intermittently Inoperative 08-18-99 JUN 99 Radio - Clock Defeat 21-09-99 JUN 99 Transfer Case - NV 247 Shudder at Slow Speeds 03-03-99 MAY 99 Front Propeller Shaft - Popping/Snapping/Grinding 08-14-99 MAY 99 Antitheft System - Vehicle Stall/No Start 18-09-99 MAY 99 DTC's - Caused By Open Fuses 23-14-99 MAY 99 Door Weather Seal - Does Not Fit Properly 23-15-99 MAY 99 Front Power Window - Tips Forward When Raised 24-08-99 MAY 99 Heater Blower - Whistle Noise 08-07-99 MAY 99 Power Distribution Center - Service 23-17-99 MAY 99 Roof Rack Cross Bar - Shipping Location 21-08-99 APR 99 A/T - Buzz/Whining in Reverse When Cold 24-07-99 APR 99 Heater, A/C - Reduced Airflow From Center Outlets 05-01-99 FEB 99 Rear Brakes - Squeal on Light Application 08-04-99 FEB 99 Universal Garage Door Opener - Reduced Range 14-01-99 FEB 99 Fuel Filler Tube - Slow Fuel Fill 21-02-99 FEB 99 A/T - Slow Neutral To Drive Engagement 24-01-99 JAN 99 A/C - Refrigerant Charge Specification Change 24-02-99 JAN 99 A/C Compressor - Service Precautions 08-17-98C DEC 98 Air Bag System - ON-OFF Switch Availibility 18-46-98 DEC 98 Engine Idle Undershoot/Driveway Die Out 23-61-98 DEC 98 Liftgate Flipper Glass - Water Leak 18-37-98 DEC 98 PCM - Addition of A Clear Flood Feature 18-44-98 DEC 98 PCM - Cold Engine Start/Partial Cool Down Sag 18-43-98 DEC 98 PCM - Engine Sag When A/C Compressor Cycles 18-45-98 DEC 98 PCM - Engine Vibration At Idle/Drone Noise 18-35-98 DEC 98 PCM - False Mil ON, DTC P0443 Set 18-40-98 DEC 98 PCM - High Idle RPM On Deceleration 18-41-98 DEC 98 PCM - Idle RPM Undershoot/Overshoot 18-36-98 DEC 98 PCM - Start and Stall, Idle Undershoot/Lost IAC Steps 21-11-98 DEC 98 Diagnostic Tool - Transmission Simulator 14-07-98 DEC 98 Fuel Filler Cap - Difficult To Remove 08-44-98 DEC 98 Memory Power Seat - Travel Range 23-60-98 DEC 98 Sunroof Sunshade - Fabric Delamination 21-16-98 DEC 98 A/T - (42RE) Revised Front Band Adjustment 21-14-98 DEC 98 A/T - 45RFE Quick Learn Clutch Volume Procedures 26-12-98A DEC 98 Antitheft/Electrical/Lighting - Manual Revisions 08-47-98 OCT 98 RKE/PDL or Power Windows - Erratic Operation 25-02-98 OCT 98 I/M Testing - OBDII CARB Readiness Monitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexusfreak Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Here's an example of the kinds of troubles a 1999 4WD JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE owner has to deal with:Automotive Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 1999 Jeep Truck Grand Cherokee 4WD L6-4.0L VIN S. Safety Recalls TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title B06 MAY 02 Recall - Intake Manifold Debris Shield 866 FEB 00 Recall - Shoulder Belt Height Adjuster Bolt 809 DEC 98 Recall - Rear Outboard Seat Belts Emissions Recalls TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title 839 SEP 99 Recall - Reprogram PCM 840 SEP 99 Recall - Sensor Wiring Heat Shield 807 APR 99 Recall - VECI Replacement General Recalls TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title C07 FEB 03 Campaign - Avoiding Unintentional Vehicle Movement 874 JUN 00 Recall - Incorrect Instrument Printed Circuit Installed Service Bulletins TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title 02-002-04A MAY 04 Suspension - Front Suspension Squeak/Squawk Noises 23-009-04 MAR 04 Interior - Popping/Clicking Noise in Front Seat Frame 23-026-03 OCT 03 Body - Poor Air Deflector to Hood Fit 18-031-03 SEP 03 Fuel System - Hot Start Misfire/MIL ON/DTC's/Rough Idle 21-009-03 AUG 03 A/T - Diagnostic Teardown Procedure 03-002-03 AUG 03 Drivetrain - Rear Axle Vent Cap Leakage 19-003-03 AUG 03 Steering Column - Pop/Tick From Steering Wheel Area 09-003-03 AUG 03 Engine - Multiple Cylinder Misfire 23-015-03 JUN 03 Body - Wind Noise from Top Rear of Front Doors 05-003-02B DEC 02 Brakes - Pulsation During Light to Moderate Application 24-009-02 OCT 02 A/C - System Leak Detection 03-003-02A OCT 02 Drivetrain - Rear Axle High Pitched Whining Sound 18-020-02 JUN 02 Engine Controls - Flash Reprogramming Failure 23-020-02 MAY 02 Liftgate - Will Not Open Correctly 19-005-02 MAY 02 Power Steering - Honking Noise 23-015-02 APR 02 Outside Rearview Mirror - Glass Replacement 08-007-02 MAR 02 Keyless Entry - Programming Procedure 08-004-01B DEC 01 Seat Heater - Inoperative 08-025-01 NOV 01 Air Bag - On/Off Switches 21-011-01 NOV 01 Transfer Case - Fluid Seepage 19-009-01 OCT 01 Driver Airbag - Trim Cover Service 05-005-01A SEP 01 Brakes - Roughness Or Pedal Pulsation 03-001-01A SEP 01 Front Drive Axle - Whining Sound 08-010-01 MAY 01 Airbag/Clock Spring - Service 18-012-01 MAY 01 Generic Scan Tool - Reference Information 24-007-01 MAY 01 A/C - Automatic Temperature Control Setting Changes 25-004-01 MAY 01 Evaporative System - Leak & DTC Diagnostics 14-002-01 MAR 01 Fuel Pump - Long Cranking Time to Start Engine 18-001-01 JAN 01 Engine Performance - Enhancements 08-006-00A DEC 00 Wiring - Revised Splicing Procedure 26-012-00N DEC 00 Electrical - Wiring Updates 23-008-00B NOV 00 Child Seat - Tether Anchor Part Numbers & Labor Time 23-041-00 NOV 00 Roof Rack - Optimum Positioning Instructions 23-038-00 OCT 00 Seat Belt - Turning Loop Cover Replacement 03-08-00 SEP 00 Differential Cover - Updated Sealer & Fluid 23-30-00 AUG 00 Seatbelts - Slow To Retract 03-04-00 JUN 00 Rear Propeller Shaft - Intermittent Stop-Bump 26-06-00A JUN 00 Electrical - Wiring Schematic/Connector Pin-Out Updates 14-06-00 JUN 00 Engine/Fuel Pump - Abnormally long Crank Time 23-17-00 MAY 00 Cargo Cover - Inoperative 26-05-00H MAY 00 Electrical - Connector Pin-Out Updates 08-11-00 MAR 00 CD Player - CD Compatibility 08-08-00 MAR 00 Keyless Entry Transmitter - Intermittently Inoperative 21-03-00 MAR 00 Transfer Case - Sector Shaft Leakage 23-10-00 MAR 00 Window Regulator - Sticks at Top Of Travel 26-03-00F MAR 00 Cooling System - Radiator Fan Shroud Service Update 08-03-00 FEB 00 Power Door Locks/Windows/Mirrors/RKE - Erratic Operation 21-01-00 FEB 00 A/T - Harsh Reverse Gear Engagement 24-01-00 FEB 00 Driver Side Floor Duct - Inadequate Air Flow 18-01-00 FEB 00 EVAP System - Leak Detection Pump Misdiagnosis 26-01-00I JAN 00 Drive Axles/Electrical - Specification/Schematic Update 02-11-99A DEC 99 Front Driveline - Vibration/Noise/Harshness 02-06-99A DEC 99 Front Hub Seals - Grease Purge Explanation 24-06-99A DEC 99 Heater-A/C Housing - Condensation Formation 26-12-99L DEC 99 Electrical - Wiring Schematics Revisions 03-08-99 NOV 99 Differential - Pinion Nut/Spacer Update 18-25-99 NOV 99 PCM - Erroneous Engine Misfire 24-24-99 NOV 99 Heater A/C System - Defaults To Defrost Mode 24-25-99 NOV 99 Plenum Seal - Cold Air Leaks To Footwell 05-02-99A OCT 99 Front Brakes - Roughness/Pedal Pulsation 14-05-99 OCT 99 Fuel System Pressure Loss - Diagnostic Procedures 26-10-99E OCT 99 ABS System - 'No Response' Test Revisions 23-35-99A OCT 99 Child Seat Tether Anchor - Labor/Parts Identification 23-38-99 OCT 99 Roof Joint Molding - Distorted/Protruding 03-05-99 SEP 99 Differential/Drive Axle - Diagnosis 08-12-99A SEP 99 Electronic Vehicle Information Center - Wrong Value 24-16-99 AUG 99 A/C - AZC Module, Innacurate Temperature Settings 02-12-99 AUG 99 Front End Alignment - Adjustable/Offset Ball Joints 21-01-99A AUG 99 NV 247 Transfer Case - Low Speed Grinding 21-01-99 AUG 99 Transfer Case - NV 247 Low Speed Grinding Noise. 02-10-99 JUL 99 Tie Rod And Drag Link Sleeve - Bolt Torque Revision 08-23-99 JUL 99 Radio Communication Equipment - Recommendations 05-05-99 JUN 99 Brake Rotors - Match Mounting 18-12-99 JUN 99 Leak Detection Pump - Monitor Test 18-13-99 JUN 99 PCM - Engine No Start Condition 08-20-99 JUN 99 Sunroof - Revised `Express Open' Position 08-16-99A JUN 99 RKE Transmitter - Is Intermittently Inoperative 08-18-99 JUN 99 Radio - Clock Defeat 21-09-99 JUN 99 Transfer Case - NV 247 Shudder at Slow Speeds 03-03-99 MAY 99 Front Propeller Shaft - Popping/Snapping/Grinding 08-14-99 MAY 99 Antitheft System - Vehicle Stall/No Start 18-09-99 MAY 99 DTC's - Caused By Open Fuses 23-14-99 MAY 99 Door Weather Seal - Does Not Fit Properly 23-15-99 MAY 99 Front Power Window - Tips Forward When Raised 24-08-99 MAY 99 Heater Blower - Whistle Noise 08-07-99 MAY 99 Power Distribution Center - Service 23-17-99 MAY 99 Roof Rack Cross Bar - Shipping Location 21-08-99 APR 99 A/T - Buzz/Whining in Reverse When Cold 24-07-99 APR 99 Heater, A/C - Reduced Airflow From Center Outlets 05-01-99 FEB 99 Rear Brakes - Squeal on Light Application 08-04-99 FEB 99 Universal Garage Door Opener - Reduced Range 14-01-99 FEB 99 Fuel Filler Tube - Slow Fuel Fill 21-02-99 FEB 99 A/T - Slow Neutral To Drive Engagement 24-01-99 JAN 99 A/C - Refrigerant Charge Specification Change 24-02-99 JAN 99 A/C Compressor - Service Precautions 08-17-98C DEC 98 Air Bag System - ON-OFF Switch Availibility 18-46-98 DEC 98 Engine Idle Undershoot/Driveway Die Out 23-61-98 DEC 98 Liftgate Flipper Glass - Water Leak 18-37-98 DEC 98 PCM - Addition of A Clear Flood Feature 18-44-98 DEC 98 PCM - Cold Engine Start/Partial Cool Down Sag 18-43-98 DEC 98 PCM - Engine Sag When A/C Compressor Cycles 18-45-98 DEC 98 PCM - Engine Vibration At Idle/Drone Noise 18-35-98 DEC 98 PCM - False Mil ON, DTC P0443 Set 18-40-98 DEC 98 PCM - High Idle RPM On Deceleration 18-41-98 DEC 98 PCM - Idle RPM Undershoot/Overshoot 18-36-98 DEC 98 PCM - Start and Stall, Idle Undershoot/Lost IAC Steps 21-11-98 DEC 98 Diagnostic Tool - Transmission Simulator 14-07-98 DEC 98 Fuel Filler Cap - Difficult To Remove 08-44-98 DEC 98 Memory Power Seat - Travel Range 23-60-98 DEC 98 Sunroof Sunshade - Fabric Delamination 21-16-98 DEC 98 A/T - (42RE) Revised Front Band Adjustment 21-14-98 DEC 98 A/T - 45RFE Quick Learn Clutch Volume Procedures 26-12-98A DEC 98 Antitheft/Electrical/Lighting - Manual Revisions 08-47-98 OCT 98 RKE/PDL or Power Windows - Erratic Operation 25-02-98 OCT 98 I/M Testing - OBDII CARB Readiness Monitor ← TSB's are not across the board for every unit monarch. The recalls I agree with, but not all 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD's suffer all of these 'maladies'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfe1 Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 Here's an example of the kinds of troubles a 1999 4WD JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE owner has to deal with:Automotive Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 1999 Jeep Truck Grand Cherokee 4WD L6-4.0L VIN S. Safety Recalls TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title B06 MAY 02 Recall - Intake Manifold Debris Shield 866 FEB 00 Recall - Shoulder Belt Height Adjuster Bolt 809 DEC 98 Recall - Rear Outboard Seat Belts Emissions Recalls TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title 839 SEP 99 Recall - Reprogram PCM 840 SEP 99 Recall - Sensor Wiring Heat Shield 807 APR 99 Recall - VECI Replacement General Recalls TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title C07 FEB 03 Campaign - Avoiding Unintentional Vehicle Movement 874 JUN 00 Recall - Incorrect Instrument Printed Circuit Installed Service Bulletins TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title 02-002-04A MAY 04 Suspension - Front Suspension Squeak/Squawk Noises 23-009-04 MAR 04 Interior - Popping/Clicking Noise in Front Seat Frame 23-026-03 OCT 03 Body - Poor Air Deflector to Hood Fit 18-031-03 SEP 03 Fuel System - Hot Start Misfire/MIL ON/DTC's/Rough Idle 21-009-03 AUG 03 A/T - Diagnostic Teardown Procedure 03-002-03 AUG 03 Drivetrain - Rear Axle Vent Cap Leakage 19-003-03 AUG 03 Steering Column - Pop/Tick From Steering Wheel Area 09-003-03 AUG 03 Engine - Multiple Cylinder Misfire 23-015-03 JUN 03 Body - Wind Noise from Top Rear of Front Doors 05-003-02B DEC 02 Brakes - Pulsation During Light to Moderate Application 24-009-02 OCT 02 A/C - System Leak Detection 03-003-02A OCT 02 Drivetrain - Rear Axle High Pitched Whining Sound 18-020-02 JUN 02 Engine Controls - Flash Reprogramming Failure 23-020-02 MAY 02 Liftgate - Will Not Open Correctly 19-005-02 MAY 02 Power Steering - Honking Noise 23-015-02 APR 02 Outside Rearview Mirror - Glass Replacement 08-007-02 MAR 02 Keyless Entry - Programming Procedure 08-004-01B DEC 01 Seat Heater - Inoperative 08-025-01 NOV 01 Air Bag - On/Off Switches 21-011-01 NOV 01 Transfer Case - Fluid Seepage 19-009-01 OCT 01 Driver Airbag - Trim Cover Service 05-005-01A SEP 01 Brakes - Roughness Or Pedal Pulsation 03-001-01A SEP 01 Front Drive Axle - Whining Sound 08-010-01 MAY 01 Airbag/Clock Spring - Service 18-012-01 MAY 01 Generic Scan Tool - Reference Information 24-007-01 MAY 01 A/C - Automatic Temperature Control Setting Changes 25-004-01 MAY 01 Evaporative System - Leak & DTC Diagnostics 14-002-01 MAR 01 Fuel Pump - Long Cranking Time to Start Engine 18-001-01 JAN 01 Engine Performance - Enhancements 08-006-00A DEC 00 Wiring - Revised Splicing Procedure 26-012-00N DEC 00 Electrical - Wiring Updates 23-008-00B NOV 00 Child Seat - Tether Anchor Part Numbers & Labor Time 23-041-00 NOV 00 Roof Rack - Optimum Positioning Instructions 23-038-00 OCT 00 Seat Belt - Turning Loop Cover Replacement 03-08-00 SEP 00 Differential Cover - Updated Sealer & Fluid 23-30-00 AUG 00 Seatbelts - Slow To Retract 03-04-00 JUN 00 Rear Propeller Shaft - Intermittent Stop-Bump 26-06-00A JUN 00 Electrical - Wiring Schematic/Connector Pin-Out Updates 14-06-00 JUN 00 Engine/Fuel Pump - Abnormally long Crank Time 23-17-00 MAY 00 Cargo Cover - Inoperative 26-05-00H MAY 00 Electrical - Connector Pin-Out Updates 08-11-00 MAR 00 CD Player - CD Compatibility 08-08-00 MAR 00 Keyless Entry Transmitter - Intermittently Inoperative 21-03-00 MAR 00 Transfer Case - Sector Shaft Leakage 23-10-00 MAR 00 Window Regulator - Sticks at Top Of Travel 26-03-00F MAR 00 Cooling System - Radiator Fan Shroud Service Update 08-03-00 FEB 00 Power Door Locks/Windows/Mirrors/RKE - Erratic Operation 21-01-00 FEB 00 A/T - Harsh Reverse Gear Engagement 24-01-00 FEB 00 Driver Side Floor Duct - Inadequate Air Flow 18-01-00 FEB 00 EVAP System - Leak Detection Pump Misdiagnosis 26-01-00I JAN 00 Drive Axles/Electrical - Specification/Schematic Update 02-11-99A DEC 99 Front Driveline - Vibration/Noise/Harshness 02-06-99A DEC 99 Front Hub Seals - Grease Purge Explanation 24-06-99A DEC 99 Heater-A/C Housing - Condensation Formation 26-12-99L DEC 99 Electrical - Wiring Schematics Revisions 03-08-99 NOV 99 Differential - Pinion Nut/Spacer Update 18-25-99 NOV 99 PCM - Erroneous Engine Misfire 24-24-99 NOV 99 Heater A/C System - Defaults To Defrost Mode 24-25-99 NOV 99 Plenum Seal - Cold Air Leaks To Footwell 05-02-99A OCT 99 Front Brakes - Roughness/Pedal Pulsation 14-05-99 OCT 99 Fuel System Pressure Loss - Diagnostic Procedures 26-10-99E OCT 99 ABS System - 'No Response' Test Revisions 23-35-99A OCT 99 Child Seat Tether Anchor - Labor/Parts Identification 23-38-99 OCT 99 Roof Joint Molding - Distorted/Protruding 03-05-99 SEP 99 Differential/Drive Axle - Diagnosis 08-12-99A SEP 99 Electronic Vehicle Information Center - Wrong Value 24-16-99 AUG 99 A/C - AZC Module, Innacurate Temperature Settings 02-12-99 AUG 99 Front End Alignment - Adjustable/Offset Ball Joints 21-01-99A AUG 99 NV 247 Transfer Case - Low Speed Grinding 21-01-99 AUG 99 Transfer Case - NV 247 Low Speed Grinding Noise. 02-10-99 JUL 99 Tie Rod And Drag Link Sleeve - Bolt Torque Revision 08-23-99 JUL 99 Radio Communication Equipment - Recommendations 05-05-99 JUN 99 Brake Rotors - Match Mounting 18-12-99 JUN 99 Leak Detection Pump - Monitor Test 18-13-99 JUN 99 PCM - Engine No Start Condition 08-20-99 JUN 99 Sunroof - Revised `Express Open' Position 08-16-99A JUN 99 RKE Transmitter - Is Intermittently Inoperative 08-18-99 JUN 99 Radio - Clock Defeat 21-09-99 JUN 99 Transfer Case - NV 247 Shudder at Slow Speeds 03-03-99 MAY 99 Front Propeller Shaft - Popping/Snapping/Grinding 08-14-99 MAY 99 Antitheft System - Vehicle Stall/No Start 18-09-99 MAY 99 DTC's - Caused By Open Fuses 23-14-99 MAY 99 Door Weather Seal - Does Not Fit Properly 23-15-99 MAY 99 Front Power Window - Tips Forward When Raised 24-08-99 MAY 99 Heater Blower - Whistle Noise 08-07-99 MAY 99 Power Distribution Center - Service 23-17-99 MAY 99 Roof Rack Cross Bar - Shipping Location 21-08-99 APR 99 A/T - Buzz/Whining in Reverse When Cold 24-07-99 APR 99 Heater, A/C - Reduced Airflow From Center Outlets 05-01-99 FEB 99 Rear Brakes - Squeal on Light Application 08-04-99 FEB 99 Universal Garage Door Opener - Reduced Range 14-01-99 FEB 99 Fuel Filler Tube - Slow Fuel Fill 21-02-99 FEB 99 A/T - Slow Neutral To Drive Engagement 24-01-99 JAN 99 A/C - Refrigerant Charge Specification Change 24-02-99 JAN 99 A/C Compressor - Service Precautions 08-17-98C DEC 98 Air Bag System - ON-OFF Switch Availibility 18-46-98 DEC 98 Engine Idle Undershoot/Driveway Die Out 23-61-98 DEC 98 Liftgate Flipper Glass - Water Leak 18-37-98 DEC 98 PCM - Addition of A Clear Flood Feature 18-44-98 DEC 98 PCM - Cold Engine Start/Partial Cool Down Sag 18-43-98 DEC 98 PCM - Engine Sag When A/C Compressor Cycles 18-45-98 DEC 98 PCM - Engine Vibration At Idle/Drone Noise 18-35-98 DEC 98 PCM - False Mil ON, DTC P0443 Set 18-40-98 DEC 98 PCM - High Idle RPM On Deceleration 18-41-98 DEC 98 PCM - Idle RPM Undershoot/Overshoot 18-36-98 DEC 98 PCM - Start and Stall, Idle Undershoot/Lost IAC Steps 21-11-98 DEC 98 Diagnostic Tool - Transmission Simulator 14-07-98 DEC 98 Fuel Filler Cap - Difficult To Remove 08-44-98 DEC 98 Memory Power Seat - Travel Range 23-60-98 DEC 98 Sunroof Sunshade - Fabric Delamination 21-16-98 DEC 98 A/T - (42RE) Revised Front Band Adjustment 21-14-98 DEC 98 A/T - 45RFE Quick Learn Clutch Volume Procedures 26-12-98A DEC 98 Antitheft/Electrical/Lighting - Manual Revisions 08-47-98 OCT 98 RKE/PDL or Power Windows - Erratic Operation 25-02-98 OCT 98 I/M Testing - OBDII CARB Readiness Monitor ← Thank you for the reply to the question nobody asked- I can see the transmission hesitation being a learning curve and getting used to it- but the info on the trans just failing is what concerns me- Thank you for all the replies and insight- I have the feeling I am going to be the owner of this vehicle wheather I like it or not- her heart is set on it, I hope I am not posting about trans probs or the brake booster here in a few months, but I will continue to post any feedback / experiences we have with it- Thanks again- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 If you want anything close to the Jeep's 4X4 performance here's the way to do it. Have a mechanic remove the center differential and PTO (Power Take Off). Remove the center differential spider gear that drives the front halfshafts and weld the spider gear that drives the rear in place. Now purchase the RX300's viscous clutch and extension shaft and install those in the PTO. Now you will have a RWD vehicle that will "adjust", couple the front drive in via the viscous clutch with rear wheel slip or spin. Now add 1.5" wheel spacers all around so you can use snowchains safely, on the rear first and then added to the front when and if needed. Always carry two sets of snowchains during the winter months, just as I always did with my Jeeps going back to 87 and now do with my 2001 AWD RX300. You can combat the hesitation problem by changing your driving style to one of a bit more aggressive nature. Always accelerate "briskly" up to the speed limit and then relax the gas pedal pressure. When I drive my six speed manual I often go from 1st to 2nd and then skip 3rd and into 4th. Then oftentimes directly to 6th. That's because I can see the roadhead, know the speed limit, and am aware that I do not need the use of some of the intermediate gear ratios. The Toyota/Lexus engine/transaxle ECU is simply trying to replicate the actions you would take. The problem is that it doesn't have your advantage of eyesight. So it, the ECU, must rely strickly on the "feel" of the gas pedal as you use it, it "learns" when to upshift, even skipping gears at times. So, accelerate "briskly", and only relax the gas pedal pressure once you have reached the road speed limit. If you are hesitent on the gas pedal the ECU, as I do, will often go from 3rd directly to 5th. Now when you wish to downshift, with non-aggressive depression of the gas pedal it will begin a downshift, but only to fourth. If about this time you realize that you need a bit more ZIP and depress the gas pedal further then the shift to 4th is already "qued" and your "new" downshift into 3rd (or maybe even 2nd) will be delayed until the previously qued shift has completed. The anticipary gear shifting, skipping, increases the vehicle's gas mileage and lowers emissions quite significantly therefore Toyota will not be coming up with a fix anytime soon, at least not without a beaucratic sign-off by the EPA and CARB. A fix has been in the works since 2003 and the Toyota engineers are not dumb, if a fix were possible it would already be available. Oh, one more thing... In the wintertime the RX330's climate control will automatically switch to footwell mode, to heating from cooling (dash outlets) as the OAT declines to freezing. That's just about the same time the A/C compressor is disabled and now the previously condensed moisture on the evaporator vanes will be released to quickly coat a COLD interior windshield surface. Don't get under "that" power curve, move the system out of cooling mode, heat the interior surface of the windshield slightly, anytime the OAT is below ~45F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rx330driver Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I think i can speak for most people when i say that you are buying a great car. I dont think ive read anything about "transmission problems" on the rx330, just on the old models. but hey, what do u expect if you have an older car. things are bound to happen. but why am i even mentioning those problems since ur buying an rx330. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker4theSpurs Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 The RX330 is a very nice car ... if not for the transmission hesitation (which may be alleviated with the new TSB applied ... I'll know soon) I wouldn't have much of a beef about this car at all. That being said it is a definite concern and annoyance at times. More annoying than dangerous I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker4theSpurs Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 My list of Pros and Cons after putting 15,000 miles on the car: Positives: Exterior Looks - really like the more aggressive exterior Roominess - rear seat especially is a nice bonus; very comfortable Reliability - quality of materials and durability a plus Holds Value - great re-sale Love my chrome rims on the black exterior LOTS of other minor things Negatives (will be more specific and seem like more, but isn't): -- A slight bit more room in the cargo area would be appreciated, but not at cost of size (so it's fine). -- Base stereo just OK -- Lack of satellite radio (soon to be alleviated in '06 it sounds like) -- Tranny hesitation - so very annoying more than anything -- armrests seem a little weak -- rear visibility to the rear corners - not a huge deal though -- tires seem to wear quickly -- paint seems to chip easily (I'd recommend the clear bra if this would REALLY bother you) -- HIDs need to be tilted up a little to prevent cut off on road view -- Wish the cruise light only came on when engaged rather than being on when the system is turned on. -- Kind of tough to stop the windows when in the auto up/down mode. Some of these are really picky and minor, but I'm trying to be comprehensive. Overall I'm pretty darn pleased with the car and the dealership experience can't be beat. Without the tranny hesitation I wouldn't even question my choice to buy an RX330. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rx330driver Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I dont know how the hesitation could be categorized as dangerous, lol. its just a little lag no biggy. second thing, the headlights can be adjusted to make it higher. they are also auto levelers. just open the hood and i believe theres some sort of thing u can turn with a screw driver. just read the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker4theSpurs Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Well I don't find it dangerous either, but some have said they need the instant response in certain situations that could result in an accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexKid630 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 The RX330 compared to other cars on the road is what you really need to think about. Every car is going to have at least a few negatives, you have to accept that... The sometimes jolty transmission is the only thing on the 330 that's sometimes annoying. You will find that sometimes you don't feel it, and other times it's EXTREMELY annoying. It's just the way the 330's are built. The rx330 is a great car. Mine hasn't had ONE single problem yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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