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My wife is getting ready to buy the '05 RX330, AWD with the Premium Package. I am not a fan of AWD systems and know little about them- (I am a Jeep guy who likes solid axles, lockers, and true selectable transfer cases.) Has this transmission nightmare been worked out? We can only get the AWD here in the midwest. If the general concensus is to change the trans fluid every 15k I am going to try to derail my wife from this buy- kinda seems ridiculous, much like having to go to the dealer for software updates so the vehicle shifts right. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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Take my word for it, as a Jeep guy you'll be miserable with the RX transmission. I'm a Jeep guy too and both my wife and I despise the transmission in her RX. It's been by far the most problematic vehicle we've ever owned.

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why dont you jsut test drive it? i have no problems on my AWD except for the minor hesitation from time to time. you'll get used to it. plus, other things in the car make up for it.

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why dont you jsut test drive it? i have no problems on my AWD except for the minor hesitation from time to time. you'll get used to it. plus, other things in the car make up for it.

I did test drive it - last night. I felt the lag and asked the sales person about it- before I had ever looked for info on it - who replied it had a "smart transmission" that would learn my driving habits- then she went into how cute my 2 year old son was and how the airbags would keep him safe- she knew nothing about cars- like sitting next to a talking brochure. I am now learning about the brake booster issue. Not sure which direction to go-

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why dont you jsut test drive it? i have no problems on my AWD except for the minor hesitation from time to time. you'll get used to it. plus, other things in the car make up for it.

I did test drive it - last night. I felt the lag and asked the sales person about it- before I had ever looked for info on it - who replied it had a "smart transmission" that would learn my driving habits- then she went into how cute my 2 year old son was and how the airbags would keep him safe- she knew nothing about cars- like sitting next to a talking brochure. I am now learning about the brake booster issue. Not sure which direction to go-

Do yourself a favor, my wife drove three loaner RX330 vehicles while her RX300 was getting its 2nd and 3rd trashmission ( oh sorry) She hated the shifting in the RX330 and found the hesistation very alarming in heavy traffic. Visability was poor in the rear the rest of the vehicle was ok. You would be much happier in a Toyota 4runner with a lot more reliablity as well as something that would perform as well as your jeep or better. That my 2 cents worth.

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why dont you jsut test drive it? i have no problems on my AWD except for the minor hesitation from time to time. you'll get used to it. plus, other things in the car make up for it.

I did test drive it - last night. I felt the lag and asked the sales person about it- before I had ever looked for info on it - who replied it had a "smart transmission" that would learn my driving habits- then she went into how cute my 2 year old son was and how the airbags would keep him safe- she knew nothing about cars- like sitting next to a talking brochure. I am now learning about the brake booster issue. Not sure which direction to go-

Do yourself a favor, my wife drove three loaner RX330 vehicles while her RX300 was getting its 2nd and 3rd trashmission ( oh sorry) She hated the shifting in the RX330 and found the hesistation very alarming in heavy traffic. Visability was poor in the rear the rest of the vehicle was ok. You would be much happier in a Toyota 4runner with a lot more reliablity as well as something that would perform as well as your jeep or better. That my 2 cents worth.

visbility is poor, i wont lie to you, but i have the backup camera which is a lot of help. the visibility is just like the rx300 tho. also, i dont think everyone is talking about the same thing in hesitation. My definition of it is when u first accelerate and theres just this 1 second moment where the car lags and then tries to make up for the loss of time so it jolts forward a little. also, it does learn your driving habits so during the break in period, drive like a grandma. that is if you get it.

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why dont you jsut test drive it? i have no problems on my AWD except for the minor hesitation from time to time. you'll get used to it. plus, other things in the car make up for it.

I did test drive it - last night. I felt the lag and asked the sales person about it- before I had ever looked for info on it - who replied it had a "smart transmission" that would learn my driving habits- then she went into how cute my 2 year old son was and how the airbags would keep him safe- she knew nothing about cars- like sitting next to a talking brochure. I am now learning about the brake booster issue. Not sure which direction to go-

Do yourself a favor, my wife drove three loaner RX330 vehicles while her RX300 was getting its 2nd and 3rd trashmission ( oh sorry) She hated the shifting in the RX330 and found the hesistation very alarming in heavy traffic. Visability was poor in the rear the rest of the vehicle was ok. You would be much happier in a Toyota 4runner with a lot more reliablity as well as something that would perform as well as your jeep or better. That my 2 cents worth.

visbility is poor, i wont lie to you, but i have the backup camera which is a lot of help. the visibility is just like the rx300 tho. also, i dont think everyone is talking about the same thing in hesitation. My definition of it is when u first accelerate and theres just this 1 second moment where the car lags and then tries to make up for the loss of time so it jolts forward a little. also, it does learn your driving habits so during the break in period, drive like a grandma. that is if you get it.

That hesitation is the fly by wire computer control on the transmission. The learning mode is an example to cover up for the poor performance of the transmission and quite frankly, it probably will not improve after you supposedly teach it to shift. What happened to the smooth shift of the old trannys?

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Here's an example of the kinds of troubles a 1999 4WD JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE owner has to deal with:

Automotive Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 1999

Jeep Truck Grand Cherokee 4WD L6-4.0L VIN S.

Safety Recalls

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

B06 MAY 02    Recall - Intake Manifold Debris Shield

866 FEB 00    Recall - Shoulder Belt Height Adjuster Bolt

809 DEC 98    Recall - Rear Outboard Seat Belts

Emissions Recalls

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

839 SEP 99    Recall - Reprogram PCM

840 SEP 99    Recall - Sensor Wiring Heat Shield

807 APR 99    Recall - VECI Replacement

General Recalls

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

C07 FEB 03    Campaign - Avoiding Unintentional Vehicle Movement

874 JUN 00    Recall - Incorrect Instrument Printed Circuit Installed

Service Bulletins

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

02-002-04A MAY 04    Suspension - Front Suspension Squeak/Squawk Noises

23-009-04 MAR 04    Interior - Popping/Clicking Noise in Front Seat Frame

23-026-03 OCT 03    Body - Poor Air Deflector to Hood Fit

18-031-03 SEP 03    Fuel System - Hot Start Misfire/MIL ON/DTC's/Rough Idle

21-009-03 AUG 03    A/T - Diagnostic Teardown Procedure

03-002-03 AUG 03    Drivetrain - Rear Axle Vent Cap Leakage

19-003-03 AUG 03    Steering Column - Pop/Tick From Steering Wheel Area

09-003-03 AUG 03    Engine - Multiple Cylinder Misfire

23-015-03 JUN 03    Body - Wind Noise from Top Rear of Front Doors

05-003-02B DEC 02    Brakes - Pulsation During Light to Moderate Application

24-009-02 OCT 02    A/C - System Leak Detection

03-003-02A OCT 02    Drivetrain - Rear Axle High Pitched Whining Sound

18-020-02 JUN 02    Engine Controls - Flash Reprogramming Failure

23-020-02 MAY 02    Liftgate - Will Not Open Correctly

19-005-02 MAY 02    Power Steering - Honking Noise

23-015-02 APR 02    Outside Rearview Mirror - Glass Replacement

08-007-02 MAR 02    Keyless Entry - Programming Procedure

08-004-01B DEC 01    Seat Heater - Inoperative

08-025-01 NOV 01    Air Bag - On/Off Switches

21-011-01 NOV 01    Transfer Case - Fluid Seepage

19-009-01 OCT 01    Driver Airbag - Trim Cover Service

05-005-01A SEP 01    Brakes - Roughness Or Pedal Pulsation

03-001-01A SEP 01    Front Drive Axle - Whining Sound

08-010-01 MAY 01    Airbag/Clock Spring - Service

18-012-01 MAY 01    Generic Scan Tool - Reference Information

24-007-01 MAY 01    A/C - Automatic Temperature Control Setting Changes

25-004-01 MAY 01    Evaporative System - Leak & DTC Diagnostics

14-002-01 MAR 01    Fuel Pump - Long Cranking Time to Start Engine

18-001-01 JAN 01    Engine Performance - Enhancements

08-006-00A DEC 00    Wiring - Revised Splicing Procedure

26-012-00N DEC 00    Electrical - Wiring Updates

23-008-00B NOV 00    Child Seat - Tether Anchor Part Numbers & Labor Time

23-041-00 NOV 00    Roof Rack - Optimum Positioning Instructions

23-038-00 OCT 00    Seat Belt - Turning Loop Cover Replacement

03-08-00 SEP 00    Differential Cover - Updated Sealer & Fluid

23-30-00 AUG 00    Seatbelts - Slow To Retract

03-04-00 JUN 00    Rear Propeller Shaft - Intermittent Stop-Bump

26-06-00A JUN 00    Electrical - Wiring Schematic/Connector Pin-Out Updates

14-06-00 JUN 00    Engine/Fuel Pump - Abnormally long Crank Time

23-17-00 MAY 00    Cargo Cover - Inoperative

26-05-00H MAY 00    Electrical - Connector Pin-Out Updates

08-11-00 MAR 00    CD Player - CD Compatibility

08-08-00 MAR 00    Keyless Entry Transmitter - Intermittently Inoperative

21-03-00 MAR 00    Transfer Case - Sector Shaft Leakage

23-10-00 MAR 00    Window Regulator - Sticks at Top Of Travel

26-03-00F MAR 00    Cooling System - Radiator Fan Shroud Service Update

08-03-00 FEB 00    Power Door Locks/Windows/Mirrors/RKE - Erratic Operation

21-01-00 FEB 00    A/T - Harsh Reverse Gear Engagement

24-01-00 FEB 00    Driver Side Floor Duct - Inadequate Air Flow

18-01-00 FEB 00    EVAP System - Leak Detection Pump Misdiagnosis

26-01-00I JAN 00    Drive Axles/Electrical - Specification/Schematic Update

02-11-99A DEC 99    Front Driveline - Vibration/Noise/Harshness

02-06-99A DEC 99    Front Hub Seals - Grease Purge Explanation

24-06-99A DEC 99    Heater-A/C Housing - Condensation Formation

26-12-99L DEC 99    Electrical - Wiring Schematics Revisions

03-08-99 NOV 99    Differential - Pinion Nut/Spacer Update

18-25-99 NOV 99    PCM - Erroneous Engine Misfire

24-24-99 NOV 99    Heater A/C System - Defaults To Defrost Mode

24-25-99 NOV 99    Plenum Seal - Cold Air Leaks To Footwell

05-02-99A OCT 99    Front Brakes - Roughness/Pedal Pulsation

14-05-99 OCT 99    Fuel System Pressure Loss - Diagnostic Procedures

26-10-99E OCT 99    ABS System - 'No Response' Test Revisions

23-35-99A OCT 99    Child Seat Tether Anchor - Labor/Parts Identification

23-38-99 OCT 99    Roof Joint Molding - Distorted/Protruding

03-05-99 SEP 99    Differential/Drive Axle - Diagnosis

08-12-99A SEP 99    Electronic Vehicle Information Center - Wrong Value

24-16-99 AUG 99    A/C - AZC Module, Innacurate Temperature Settings

02-12-99 AUG 99    Front End Alignment - Adjustable/Offset Ball Joints

21-01-99A AUG 99    NV 247 Transfer Case - Low Speed Grinding

21-01-99 AUG 99    Transfer Case - NV 247 Low Speed Grinding Noise.

02-10-99 JUL 99    Tie Rod And Drag Link Sleeve - Bolt Torque Revision

08-23-99 JUL 99    Radio Communication Equipment - Recommendations

05-05-99 JUN 99    Brake Rotors - Match Mounting

18-12-99 JUN 99    Leak Detection Pump - Monitor Test

18-13-99 JUN 99    PCM - Engine No Start Condition

08-20-99 JUN 99    Sunroof - Revised `Express Open' Position

08-16-99A JUN 99    RKE Transmitter - Is Intermittently Inoperative

08-18-99 JUN 99    Radio - Clock Defeat

21-09-99 JUN 99    Transfer Case - NV 247 Shudder at Slow Speeds

03-03-99 MAY 99    Front Propeller Shaft - Popping/Snapping/Grinding

08-14-99 MAY 99    Antitheft System - Vehicle Stall/No Start

18-09-99 MAY 99    DTC's - Caused By Open Fuses

23-14-99 MAY 99    Door Weather Seal - Does Not Fit Properly

23-15-99 MAY 99    Front Power Window - Tips Forward When Raised

24-08-99 MAY 99    Heater Blower - Whistle Noise

08-07-99 MAY 99    Power Distribution Center - Service

23-17-99 MAY 99    Roof Rack Cross Bar - Shipping Location

21-08-99 APR 99    A/T - Buzz/Whining in Reverse When Cold

24-07-99 APR 99    Heater, A/C - Reduced Airflow From Center Outlets

05-01-99 FEB 99    Rear Brakes - Squeal on Light Application

08-04-99 FEB 99    Universal Garage Door Opener - Reduced Range

14-01-99 FEB 99    Fuel Filler Tube - Slow Fuel Fill

21-02-99 FEB 99    A/T - Slow Neutral To Drive Engagement

24-01-99 JAN 99    A/C - Refrigerant Charge Specification Change

24-02-99 JAN 99    A/C Compressor - Service Precautions

08-17-98C DEC 98    Air Bag System - ON-OFF Switch Availibility

18-46-98 DEC 98    Engine Idle Undershoot/Driveway Die Out

23-61-98 DEC 98    Liftgate Flipper Glass - Water Leak

18-37-98 DEC 98    PCM - Addition of A Clear Flood Feature

18-44-98 DEC 98    PCM - Cold Engine Start/Partial Cool Down Sag

18-43-98 DEC 98    PCM - Engine Sag When A/C Compressor Cycles

18-45-98 DEC 98    PCM - Engine Vibration At Idle/Drone Noise

18-35-98 DEC 98    PCM - False Mil ON, DTC P0443 Set

18-40-98 DEC 98    PCM - High Idle RPM On Deceleration

18-41-98 DEC 98    PCM - Idle RPM Undershoot/Overshoot

18-36-98 DEC 98    PCM - Start and Stall, Idle Undershoot/Lost IAC Steps

21-11-98 DEC 98    Diagnostic Tool - Transmission Simulator

14-07-98 DEC 98    Fuel Filler Cap - Difficult To Remove

08-44-98 DEC 98    Memory Power Seat - Travel Range

23-60-98 DEC 98    Sunroof Sunshade - Fabric Delamination

21-16-98 DEC 98    A/T - (42RE) Revised Front Band Adjustment

21-14-98 DEC 98    A/T - 45RFE Quick Learn Clutch Volume Procedures

26-12-98A DEC 98    Antitheft/Electrical/Lighting - Manual Revisions

08-47-98 OCT 98    RKE/PDL or Power Windows - Erratic Operation

25-02-98 OCT 98    I/M Testing - OBDII CARB Readiness Monitor

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Here's an example of the kinds of troubles a 1999 4WD JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE owner has to deal with:

Automotive Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 1999

Jeep Truck Grand Cherokee 4WD L6-4.0L VIN S.

Safety Recalls

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

B06 MAY 02    Recall - Intake Manifold Debris Shield

866 FEB 00    Recall - Shoulder Belt Height Adjuster Bolt

809 DEC 98    Recall - Rear Outboard Seat Belts

Emissions Recalls

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

839 SEP 99    Recall - Reprogram PCM

840 SEP 99    Recall - Sensor Wiring Heat Shield

807 APR 99    Recall - VECI Replacement

General Recalls

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

C07 FEB 03    Campaign - Avoiding Unintentional Vehicle Movement

874 JUN 00    Recall - Incorrect Instrument Printed Circuit Installed

Service Bulletins

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

02-002-04A MAY 04    Suspension - Front Suspension Squeak/Squawk Noises

23-009-04 MAR 04    Interior - Popping/Clicking Noise in Front Seat Frame

23-026-03 OCT 03    Body - Poor Air Deflector to Hood Fit

18-031-03 SEP 03    Fuel System - Hot Start Misfire/MIL ON/DTC's/Rough Idle

21-009-03 AUG 03    A/T - Diagnostic Teardown Procedure

03-002-03 AUG 03    Drivetrain - Rear Axle Vent Cap Leakage

19-003-03 AUG 03    Steering Column - Pop/Tick From Steering Wheel Area

09-003-03 AUG 03    Engine - Multiple Cylinder Misfire

23-015-03 JUN 03    Body - Wind Noise from Top Rear of Front Doors

05-003-02B DEC 02    Brakes - Pulsation During Light to Moderate Application

24-009-02 OCT 02    A/C - System Leak Detection

03-003-02A OCT 02    Drivetrain - Rear Axle High Pitched Whining Sound

18-020-02 JUN 02    Engine Controls - Flash Reprogramming Failure

23-020-02 MAY 02    Liftgate - Will Not Open Correctly

19-005-02 MAY 02    Power Steering - Honking Noise

23-015-02 APR 02    Outside Rearview Mirror - Glass Replacement

08-007-02 MAR 02    Keyless Entry - Programming Procedure

08-004-01B DEC 01    Seat Heater - Inoperative

08-025-01 NOV 01    Air Bag - On/Off Switches

21-011-01 NOV 01    Transfer Case - Fluid Seepage

19-009-01 OCT 01    Driver Airbag - Trim Cover Service

05-005-01A SEP 01    Brakes - Roughness Or Pedal Pulsation

03-001-01A SEP 01    Front Drive Axle - Whining Sound

08-010-01 MAY 01    Airbag/Clock Spring - Service

18-012-01 MAY 01    Generic Scan Tool - Reference Information

24-007-01 MAY 01    A/C - Automatic Temperature Control Setting Changes

25-004-01 MAY 01    Evaporative System - Leak & DTC Diagnostics

14-002-01 MAR 01    Fuel Pump - Long Cranking Time to Start Engine

18-001-01 JAN 01    Engine Performance - Enhancements

08-006-00A DEC 00    Wiring - Revised Splicing Procedure

26-012-00N DEC 00    Electrical - Wiring Updates

23-008-00B NOV 00    Child Seat - Tether Anchor Part Numbers & Labor Time

23-041-00 NOV 00    Roof Rack - Optimum Positioning Instructions

23-038-00 OCT 00    Seat Belt - Turning Loop Cover Replacement

03-08-00 SEP 00    Differential Cover - Updated Sealer & Fluid

23-30-00 AUG 00    Seatbelts - Slow To Retract

03-04-00 JUN 00    Rear Propeller Shaft - Intermittent Stop-Bump

26-06-00A JUN 00    Electrical - Wiring Schematic/Connector Pin-Out Updates

14-06-00 JUN 00    Engine/Fuel Pump - Abnormally long Crank Time

23-17-00 MAY 00    Cargo Cover - Inoperative

26-05-00H MAY 00    Electrical - Connector Pin-Out Updates

08-11-00 MAR 00    CD Player - CD Compatibility

08-08-00 MAR 00    Keyless Entry Transmitter - Intermittently Inoperative

21-03-00 MAR 00    Transfer Case - Sector Shaft Leakage

23-10-00 MAR 00    Window Regulator - Sticks at Top Of Travel

26-03-00F MAR 00    Cooling System - Radiator Fan Shroud Service Update

08-03-00 FEB 00    Power Door Locks/Windows/Mirrors/RKE - Erratic Operation

21-01-00 FEB 00    A/T - Harsh Reverse Gear Engagement

24-01-00 FEB 00    Driver Side Floor Duct - Inadequate Air Flow

18-01-00 FEB 00    EVAP System - Leak Detection Pump Misdiagnosis

26-01-00I JAN 00    Drive Axles/Electrical - Specification/Schematic Update

02-11-99A DEC 99    Front Driveline - Vibration/Noise/Harshness

02-06-99A DEC 99    Front Hub Seals - Grease Purge Explanation

24-06-99A DEC 99    Heater-A/C Housing - Condensation Formation

26-12-99L DEC 99    Electrical - Wiring Schematics Revisions

03-08-99 NOV 99    Differential - Pinion Nut/Spacer Update

18-25-99 NOV 99    PCM - Erroneous Engine Misfire

24-24-99 NOV 99    Heater A/C System - Defaults To Defrost Mode

24-25-99 NOV 99    Plenum Seal - Cold Air Leaks To Footwell

05-02-99A OCT 99    Front Brakes - Roughness/Pedal Pulsation

14-05-99 OCT 99    Fuel System Pressure Loss - Diagnostic Procedures

26-10-99E OCT 99    ABS System - 'No Response' Test Revisions

23-35-99A OCT 99    Child Seat Tether Anchor - Labor/Parts Identification

23-38-99 OCT 99    Roof Joint Molding - Distorted/Protruding

03-05-99 SEP 99    Differential/Drive Axle - Diagnosis

08-12-99A SEP 99    Electronic Vehicle Information Center - Wrong Value

24-16-99 AUG 99    A/C - AZC Module, Innacurate Temperature Settings

02-12-99 AUG 99    Front End Alignment - Adjustable/Offset Ball Joints

21-01-99A AUG 99    NV 247 Transfer Case - Low Speed Grinding

21-01-99 AUG 99    Transfer Case - NV 247 Low Speed Grinding Noise.

02-10-99 JUL 99    Tie Rod And Drag Link Sleeve - Bolt Torque Revision

08-23-99 JUL 99    Radio Communication Equipment - Recommendations

05-05-99 JUN 99    Brake Rotors - Match Mounting

18-12-99 JUN 99    Leak Detection Pump - Monitor Test

18-13-99 JUN 99    PCM - Engine No Start Condition

08-20-99 JUN 99    Sunroof - Revised `Express Open' Position

08-16-99A JUN 99    RKE Transmitter - Is Intermittently Inoperative

08-18-99 JUN 99    Radio - Clock Defeat

21-09-99 JUN 99    Transfer Case - NV 247 Shudder at Slow Speeds

03-03-99 MAY 99    Front Propeller Shaft - Popping/Snapping/Grinding

08-14-99 MAY 99    Antitheft System - Vehicle Stall/No Start

18-09-99 MAY 99    DTC's - Caused By Open Fuses

23-14-99 MAY 99    Door Weather Seal - Does Not Fit Properly

23-15-99 MAY 99    Front Power Window - Tips Forward When Raised

24-08-99 MAY 99    Heater Blower - Whistle Noise

08-07-99 MAY 99    Power Distribution Center - Service

23-17-99 MAY 99    Roof Rack Cross Bar - Shipping Location

21-08-99 APR 99    A/T - Buzz/Whining in Reverse When Cold

24-07-99 APR 99    Heater, A/C - Reduced Airflow From Center Outlets

05-01-99 FEB 99    Rear Brakes - Squeal on Light Application

08-04-99 FEB 99    Universal Garage Door Opener - Reduced Range

14-01-99 FEB 99    Fuel Filler Tube - Slow Fuel Fill

21-02-99 FEB 99    A/T - Slow Neutral To Drive Engagement

24-01-99 JAN 99    A/C - Refrigerant Charge Specification Change

24-02-99 JAN 99    A/C Compressor - Service Precautions

08-17-98C DEC 98    Air Bag System - ON-OFF Switch Availibility

18-46-98 DEC 98    Engine Idle Undershoot/Driveway Die Out

23-61-98 DEC 98    Liftgate Flipper Glass - Water Leak

18-37-98 DEC 98    PCM - Addition of A Clear Flood Feature

18-44-98 DEC 98    PCM - Cold Engine Start/Partial Cool Down Sag

18-43-98 DEC 98    PCM - Engine Sag When A/C Compressor Cycles

18-45-98 DEC 98    PCM - Engine Vibration At Idle/Drone Noise

18-35-98 DEC 98    PCM - False Mil ON, DTC P0443 Set

18-40-98 DEC 98    PCM - High Idle RPM On Deceleration

18-41-98 DEC 98    PCM - Idle RPM Undershoot/Overshoot

18-36-98 DEC 98    PCM - Start and Stall, Idle Undershoot/Lost IAC Steps

21-11-98 DEC 98    Diagnostic Tool - Transmission Simulator

14-07-98 DEC 98    Fuel Filler Cap - Difficult To Remove

08-44-98 DEC 98    Memory Power Seat - Travel Range

23-60-98 DEC 98    Sunroof Sunshade - Fabric Delamination

21-16-98 DEC 98    A/T - (42RE) Revised Front Band Adjustment

21-14-98 DEC 98    A/T - 45RFE Quick Learn Clutch Volume Procedures

26-12-98A DEC 98    Antitheft/Electrical/Lighting - Manual Revisions

08-47-98 OCT 98    RKE/PDL or Power Windows - Erratic Operation

25-02-98 OCT 98    I/M Testing - OBDII CARB Readiness Monitor

TSB's are not across the board for every unit monarch. The recalls I agree with, but not all 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD's suffer all of these 'maladies'. :rolleyes:

:cheers:

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Here's an example of the kinds of troubles a 1999 4WD JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE owner has to deal with:

Automotive Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 1999

Jeep Truck Grand Cherokee 4WD L6-4.0L VIN S.

Safety Recalls

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

B06 MAY 02    Recall - Intake Manifold Debris Shield

866 FEB 00    Recall - Shoulder Belt Height Adjuster Bolt

809 DEC 98    Recall - Rear Outboard Seat Belts

Emissions Recalls

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

839 SEP 99    Recall - Reprogram PCM

840 SEP 99    Recall - Sensor Wiring Heat Shield

807 APR 99    Recall - VECI Replacement

General Recalls

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

C07 FEB 03    Campaign - Avoiding Unintentional Vehicle Movement

874 JUN 00    Recall - Incorrect Instrument Printed Circuit Installed

Service Bulletins

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title

02-002-04A MAY 04    Suspension - Front Suspension Squeak/Squawk Noises

23-009-04 MAR 04    Interior - Popping/Clicking Noise in Front Seat Frame

23-026-03 OCT 03    Body - Poor Air Deflector to Hood Fit

18-031-03 SEP 03    Fuel System - Hot Start Misfire/MIL ON/DTC's/Rough Idle

21-009-03 AUG 03    A/T - Diagnostic Teardown Procedure

03-002-03 AUG 03    Drivetrain - Rear Axle Vent Cap Leakage

19-003-03 AUG 03    Steering Column - Pop/Tick From Steering Wheel Area

09-003-03 AUG 03    Engine - Multiple Cylinder Misfire

23-015-03 JUN 03    Body - Wind Noise from Top Rear of Front Doors

05-003-02B DEC 02    Brakes - Pulsation During Light to Moderate Application

24-009-02 OCT 02    A/C - System Leak Detection

03-003-02A OCT 02    Drivetrain - Rear Axle High Pitched Whining Sound

18-020-02 JUN 02    Engine Controls - Flash Reprogramming Failure

23-020-02 MAY 02    Liftgate - Will Not Open Correctly

19-005-02 MAY 02    Power Steering - Honking Noise

23-015-02 APR 02    Outside Rearview Mirror - Glass Replacement

08-007-02 MAR 02    Keyless Entry - Programming Procedure

08-004-01B DEC 01    Seat Heater - Inoperative

08-025-01 NOV 01    Air Bag - On/Off Switches

21-011-01 NOV 01    Transfer Case - Fluid Seepage

19-009-01 OCT 01    Driver Airbag - Trim Cover Service

05-005-01A SEP 01    Brakes - Roughness Or Pedal Pulsation

03-001-01A SEP 01    Front Drive Axle - Whining Sound

08-010-01 MAY 01    Airbag/Clock Spring - Service

18-012-01 MAY 01    Generic Scan Tool - Reference Information

24-007-01 MAY 01    A/C - Automatic Temperature Control Setting Changes

25-004-01 MAY 01    Evaporative System - Leak & DTC Diagnostics

14-002-01 MAR 01    Fuel Pump - Long Cranking Time to Start Engine

18-001-01 JAN 01    Engine Performance - Enhancements

08-006-00A DEC 00    Wiring - Revised Splicing Procedure

26-012-00N DEC 00    Electrical - Wiring Updates

23-008-00B NOV 00    Child Seat - Tether Anchor Part Numbers & Labor Time

23-041-00 NOV 00    Roof Rack - Optimum Positioning Instructions

23-038-00 OCT 00    Seat Belt - Turning Loop Cover Replacement

03-08-00 SEP 00    Differential Cover - Updated Sealer & Fluid

23-30-00 AUG 00    Seatbelts - Slow To Retract

03-04-00 JUN 00    Rear Propeller Shaft - Intermittent Stop-Bump

26-06-00A JUN 00    Electrical - Wiring Schematic/Connector Pin-Out Updates

14-06-00 JUN 00    Engine/Fuel Pump - Abnormally long Crank Time

23-17-00 MAY 00    Cargo Cover - Inoperative

26-05-00H MAY 00    Electrical - Connector Pin-Out Updates

08-11-00 MAR 00    CD Player - CD Compatibility

08-08-00 MAR 00    Keyless Entry Transmitter - Intermittently Inoperative

21-03-00 MAR 00    Transfer Case - Sector Shaft Leakage

23-10-00 MAR 00    Window Regulator - Sticks at Top Of Travel

26-03-00F MAR 00    Cooling System - Radiator Fan Shroud Service Update

08-03-00 FEB 00    Power Door Locks/Windows/Mirrors/RKE - Erratic Operation

21-01-00 FEB 00    A/T - Harsh Reverse Gear Engagement

24-01-00 FEB 00    Driver Side Floor Duct - Inadequate Air Flow

18-01-00 FEB 00    EVAP System - Leak Detection Pump Misdiagnosis

26-01-00I JAN 00    Drive Axles/Electrical - Specification/Schematic Update

02-11-99A DEC 99    Front Driveline - Vibration/Noise/Harshness

02-06-99A DEC 99    Front Hub Seals - Grease Purge Explanation

24-06-99A DEC 99    Heater-A/C Housing - Condensation Formation

26-12-99L DEC 99    Electrical - Wiring Schematics Revisions

03-08-99 NOV 99    Differential - Pinion Nut/Spacer Update

18-25-99 NOV 99    PCM - Erroneous Engine Misfire

24-24-99 NOV 99    Heater A/C System - Defaults To Defrost Mode

24-25-99 NOV 99    Plenum Seal - Cold Air Leaks To Footwell

05-02-99A OCT 99    Front Brakes - Roughness/Pedal Pulsation

14-05-99 OCT 99    Fuel System Pressure Loss - Diagnostic Procedures

26-10-99E OCT 99    ABS System - 'No Response' Test Revisions

23-35-99A OCT 99    Child Seat Tether Anchor - Labor/Parts Identification

23-38-99 OCT 99    Roof Joint Molding - Distorted/Protruding

03-05-99 SEP 99    Differential/Drive Axle - Diagnosis

08-12-99A SEP 99    Electronic Vehicle Information Center - Wrong Value

24-16-99 AUG 99    A/C - AZC Module, Innacurate Temperature Settings

02-12-99 AUG 99    Front End Alignment - Adjustable/Offset Ball Joints

21-01-99A AUG 99    NV 247 Transfer Case - Low Speed Grinding

21-01-99 AUG 99    Transfer Case - NV 247 Low Speed Grinding Noise.

02-10-99 JUL 99    Tie Rod And Drag Link Sleeve - Bolt Torque Revision

08-23-99 JUL 99    Radio Communication Equipment - Recommendations

05-05-99 JUN 99    Brake Rotors - Match Mounting

18-12-99 JUN 99    Leak Detection Pump - Monitor Test

18-13-99 JUN 99    PCM - Engine No Start Condition

08-20-99 JUN 99    Sunroof - Revised `Express Open' Position

08-16-99A JUN 99    RKE Transmitter - Is Intermittently Inoperative

08-18-99 JUN 99    Radio - Clock Defeat

21-09-99 JUN 99    Transfer Case - NV 247 Shudder at Slow Speeds

03-03-99 MAY 99    Front Propeller Shaft - Popping/Snapping/Grinding

08-14-99 MAY 99    Antitheft System - Vehicle Stall/No Start

18-09-99 MAY 99    DTC's - Caused By Open Fuses

23-14-99 MAY 99    Door Weather Seal - Does Not Fit Properly

23-15-99 MAY 99    Front Power Window - Tips Forward When Raised

24-08-99 MAY 99    Heater Blower - Whistle Noise

08-07-99 MAY 99    Power Distribution Center - Service

23-17-99 MAY 99    Roof Rack Cross Bar - Shipping Location

21-08-99 APR 99    A/T - Buzz/Whining in Reverse When Cold

24-07-99 APR 99    Heater, A/C - Reduced Airflow From Center Outlets

05-01-99 FEB 99    Rear Brakes - Squeal on Light Application

08-04-99 FEB 99    Universal Garage Door Opener - Reduced Range

14-01-99 FEB 99    Fuel Filler Tube - Slow Fuel Fill

21-02-99 FEB 99    A/T - Slow Neutral To Drive Engagement

24-01-99 JAN 99    A/C - Refrigerant Charge Specification Change

24-02-99 JAN 99    A/C Compressor - Service Precautions

08-17-98C DEC 98    Air Bag System - ON-OFF Switch Availibility

18-46-98 DEC 98    Engine Idle Undershoot/Driveway Die Out

23-61-98 DEC 98    Liftgate Flipper Glass - Water Leak

18-37-98 DEC 98    PCM - Addition of A Clear Flood Feature

18-44-98 DEC 98    PCM - Cold Engine Start/Partial Cool Down Sag

18-43-98 DEC 98    PCM - Engine Sag When A/C Compressor Cycles

18-45-98 DEC 98    PCM - Engine Vibration At Idle/Drone Noise

18-35-98 DEC 98    PCM - False Mil ON, DTC P0443 Set

18-40-98 DEC 98    PCM - High Idle RPM On Deceleration

18-41-98 DEC 98    PCM - Idle RPM Undershoot/Overshoot

18-36-98 DEC 98    PCM - Start and Stall, Idle Undershoot/Lost IAC Steps

21-11-98 DEC 98    Diagnostic Tool - Transmission Simulator

14-07-98 DEC 98    Fuel Filler Cap - Difficult To Remove

08-44-98 DEC 98    Memory Power Seat - Travel Range

23-60-98 DEC 98    Sunroof Sunshade - Fabric Delamination

21-16-98 DEC 98    A/T - (42RE) Revised Front Band Adjustment

21-14-98 DEC 98    A/T - 45RFE Quick Learn Clutch Volume Procedures

26-12-98A DEC 98    Antitheft/Electrical/Lighting - Manual Revisions

08-47-98 OCT 98    RKE/PDL or Power Windows - Erratic Operation

25-02-98 OCT 98    I/M Testing - OBDII CARB Readiness Monitor

Thank you for the reply to the question nobody asked-

I can see the transmission hesitation being a learning curve and getting used to it- but the info on the trans just failing is what concerns me- Thank you for all the replies and insight- I have the feeling I am going to be the owner of this vehicle wheather I like it or not- her heart is set on it, I hope I am not posting about trans probs or the brake booster here in a few months, but I will continue to post any feedback / experiences we have with it- Thanks again-

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If you want anything close to the Jeep's 4X4 performance here's the way to do it.

Have a mechanic remove the center differential and PTO (Power Take Off). Remove the center differential spider gear that drives the front halfshafts and weld the spider gear that drives the rear in place. Now purchase the RX300's viscous clutch and extension shaft and install those in the PTO.

Now you will have a RWD vehicle that will "adjust", couple the front drive in via the viscous clutch with rear wheel slip or spin.

Now add 1.5" wheel spacers all around so you can use snowchains safely, on the rear first and then added to the front when and if needed. Always carry two sets of snowchains during the winter months, just as I always did with my Jeeps going back to 87 and now do with my 2001 AWD RX300.

You can combat the hesitation problem by changing your driving style to one of a bit more aggressive nature. Always accelerate "briskly" up to the speed limit and then relax the gas pedal pressure.

When I drive my six speed manual I often go from 1st to 2nd and then skip 3rd and into 4th. Then oftentimes directly to 6th.

That's because I can see the roadhead, know the speed limit, and am aware that I do not need the use of some of the intermediate gear ratios.

The Toyota/Lexus engine/transaxle ECU is simply trying to replicate the actions you would take. The problem is that it doesn't have your advantage of eyesight.

So it, the ECU, must rely strickly on the "feel" of the gas pedal as you use it, it "learns" when to upshift, even skipping gears at times.

So, accelerate "briskly", and only relax the gas pedal pressure once you have reached the road speed limit.

If you are hesitent on the gas pedal the ECU, as I do, will often go from 3rd directly to 5th. Now when you wish to downshift, with non-aggressive depression of the gas pedal it will begin a downshift, but only to fourth. If about this time you realize that you need a bit more ZIP and depress the gas pedal further then the shift to 4th is already "qued" and your "new" downshift into 3rd (or maybe even 2nd) will be delayed until the previously qued shift has completed.

The anticipary gear shifting, skipping, increases the vehicle's gas mileage and lowers emissions quite significantly therefore Toyota will not be coming up with a fix anytime soon, at least not without a beaucratic sign-off by the EPA and CARB.

A fix has been in the works since 2003 and the Toyota engineers are not dumb, if a fix were possible it would already be available.

Oh, one more thing...

In the wintertime the RX330's climate control will automatically switch to footwell mode, to heating from cooling (dash outlets) as the OAT declines to freezing. That's just about the same time the A/C compressor is disabled and now the previously condensed moisture on the evaporator vanes will be released to quickly coat a COLD interior windshield surface.

Don't get under "that" power curve, move the system out of cooling mode, heat the interior surface of the windshield slightly, anytime the OAT is below ~45F.

Posted

I think i can speak for most people when i say that you are buying a great car. I dont think ive read anything about "transmission problems" on the rx330, just on the old models. but hey, what do u expect if you have an older car. things are bound to happen. but why am i even mentioning those problems since ur buying an rx330.

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The RX330 is a very nice car ... if not for the transmission hesitation (which may be alleviated with the new TSB applied ... I'll know soon) I wouldn't have much of a beef about this car at all. That being said it is a definite concern and annoyance at times. More annoying than dangerous I'd say.

Posted

My list of Pros and Cons after putting 15,000 miles on the car:

Positives:

Exterior Looks - really like the more aggressive exterior

Roominess - rear seat especially is a nice bonus; very comfortable

Reliability - quality of materials and durability a plus

Holds Value - great re-sale

Love my chrome rims on the black exterior

LOTS of other minor things

Negatives (will be more specific and seem like more, but isn't):

-- A slight bit more room in the cargo area would be appreciated, but not at cost of size (so it's fine).

-- Base stereo just OK

-- Lack of satellite radio (soon to be alleviated in '06 it sounds like)

-- Tranny hesitation - so very annoying more than anything

-- armrests seem a little weak

-- rear visibility to the rear corners - not a huge deal though

-- tires seem to wear quickly

-- paint seems to chip easily (I'd recommend the clear bra if this would REALLY bother you)

-- HIDs need to be tilted up a little to prevent cut off on road view

-- Wish the cruise light only came on when engaged rather than being on when the system is turned on.

-- Kind of tough to stop the windows when in the auto up/down mode.

Some of these are really picky and minor, but I'm trying to be comprehensive. Overall I'm pretty darn pleased with the car and the dealership experience can't be beat. Without the tranny hesitation I wouldn't even question my choice to buy an RX330.

Posted

I dont know how the hesitation could be categorized as dangerous, lol. its just a little lag no biggy. second thing, the headlights can be adjusted to make it higher. they are also auto levelers. just open the hood and i believe theres some sort of thing u can turn with a screw driver. just read the manual.

Posted

Well I don't find it dangerous either, but some have said they need the instant response in certain situations that could result in an accident.


Posted

The RX330 compared to other cars on the road is what you really need to think about. Every car is going to have at least a few negatives, you have to accept that...

The sometimes jolty transmission is the only thing on the 330 that's sometimes annoying. You will find that sometimes you don't feel it, and other times it's EXTREMELY annoying. It's just the way the 330's are built.

The rx330 is a great car. Mine hasn't had ONE single problem yet.

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