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You started a thread that asked someone to post to another thread, which doesn't make any sense. If you had started a thread that asked a question and then directed responses in that thread it would have stayed open.

I didn't call you a comical hypocrite, I said your statement was comically hypocritical, which it was. You can't possibly disagree that your asking powerwave (who works for a dealer) to see things from a customer's point of view and to have a fair and balanced opinion when you have been violently unwilling to even entertain the idea that the dealer is not at fault for your issue or even to remotely see anything from a dealer's perspective. That is the textbook definition of hypocrisy. Hypocrite- a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements. Theres absolutely no way you can deny that your request of someone else to be fair and balanced when you refuse to be is hypocritical. Yes, but unlocking the door with the key is a mechanical operation, there are no electronics involved therefore any problem with the electrical system of the car would be completely seperate from the key, which is what we've been saying all along. You said the POWER door locks wouldn't work. Using the key to unlock the door manually has nothing to do with the power door locks. You had nothing to begin with on this topic because you have absolutely no grounds for your complaint. Something happened to the electrical system of your car while under the dealer's care (supposedly), you brought it to the dealer's attention and they corrected it. What is your issue? Okay so you felt you were treated badly. If you carried on in there the way you've carried on in here I can understand why. He probably doesn't know anything about cars, so thats going to be a no-go.

Oh he's not going anywhere, we won't let him ;)

But what is the speed limit on I-20? I bet its not 55.

I havent done any yet lol ;)

There's a difference between speeding and going 99 in a 55, thats 45MPH over the limit, nearly twice the legal limit. I have never driven nor needed to drive such an amount over a speed limit in my life, and DC has some pretty high speed roads. I honestly believe if you are caught breaking the speed limit by THAT amount, you should loose your drivers license. Its people driving at speeds that are rediculously higher than the flow of traffic or expected speed of traffic on a roadway that are dangerous.

Breakwater blue is a great color, pretty common.

Again I tell you DO NOT personally attack members on our forums. You just called powerwave a crook and I will not allow that to happen. LAST warning. Anyways, I find it pretty comical hypocracy that you would ask anyone to look at it from the other side or to have a balanced view

First of all can the "I'm thinking you may not be too sharp" crap be it to me or anyone else. If you're going to post things to a public forum, be ready for people to disagree with you. If you can't handle that without personally insulting others we will ask you to leave the club. And show me where the key for a 1992 ES300 costs $400 from your dealer. It doesn't. Keys also start cars, how would the power door locks be affected in you starting the car? The 92 ES doesn't have a key that unlocks car doors remotely, thats a seperate fob. In any event, the car is fixed and it didn't cost you anything so whats the big deal?

Ah, the cat technique. I know it well *this is a joke lol...no good can come of a cat anywhere near your car

Yep, no problem. Business isn't good enough to clear out inventory anymore.

In no place does it say that lol ;)

It rides pretty similarly to the GS. The one they tested may have had the sport package which has bigger wheels and a stiffer suspension, I wouldn't buy that.

Yes, you just can't use the memory function while driving.

He never said the KEY didn't work, he said the dome lights and door locks failed to work. I'm sure they tested the KEY, but why would they have tested the car's electrical system? And the keys do not cost $400. Who told you they cost $400?

But you have to be realistic. The car may be two weeks old to you, but that doesn't change the fact that the car is really 16 years old. Cars are machines, and machines that old understandably have things like that happen. Why would the dealer try and cover up something as simple as a blown fuse? Pray tell, how could the dealer have blown a fuse while programming the key? Yes something had to happen to blow the fuse. Whatever it is will probably cause the fuse to blow again, and again, and again, until you find the cause of the spike in the car's electrical system. Why would they have inspected the car's electrical system after programming a key? Again, its a simple procedure that requires nothing to be done to the car's electrical systems. Inspections like that are not free. Yes, it is unreasonable to expect that they would inspect the car's electrical system after programming a key. If the dealer were a crook they would have tried to charge you a bunch of stuff to fix the electrical system. Instead they replaced the fuse...probably for free. Did you pay $400 for the key? On a 16 year old car? They saw you coming. Thats like 14% of the car's value... A master smart key on a brand new LS460 isn't $400... You have to get a grip on reality. Even if the car is new to you, its not new. You can't expect the car to perform as if it were new, and you can't expect the dealership and Lexus as a car company to support you and the car as if it were new. They'll do checks like that on new cars in the warranty period, but most people with cars that old that come in for things like keys and they don't want (or can't afford) the dealer to snoop around and look for things they'll have to pay to fix. They probably just assumed you knew certain things weren't functioning and didn't care. If you went in there hooting and hollering about the car being 2 weeks old when its really 16 years old and "having semi-violent thoughts" to where people told you to "calm down" they probably thought you were a lunatic and just wanted you out of the dealership.

I saw an 08 at the dealer today. I was driving by and early for an appointment so I figured why not. Its gorgeous, all the changes are extremely well integrated and it really looks much more put together than the previous car. Definately a more expensive looking car than the ES350 and GS both inside and out. I didn't drive it, just looked at it on the lot.

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99 in a 55?!? You don't deserve a license. The sad thing is he doesn't seem to think theres anything wrong with this at all... And how can you think its okay to be 2 car legnths behind a cop at 80MPH? Thats not nearly enough following distance at that speed. Do yourself a favor and LISTEN to us. Be smarter.

Wont work, the car will keep unlocking it.

Yep its in the manual, I had it done not too long ago, I believe its: Oil change/tire rotation Coolant flush transmission fluid change timing belt spark plugs and a myriad of other things. Its a pricey one, I paid about $1200.

It was half full. The dealer had it for three days and were never able to find anything wrong nor were they able to make it act up again so they concluded the same thing which makes sense to me. The manual specifies premium. You just bought an ES? Congrats!

First of all, calm down. The car is 16 years old, its not 2 weeks old. Things like that are going to happen. Theres no way the dealer could have done anything to the electrical system while programming a key, it was just a coincidence that the fuse blew at the same time the dealer had the car in their posession. Not all the dealers are created equal (mine is fantastic, but I've been to less fantastic ones) but you have to be reasonable. In what way does this experience tell you that you can't trust the dealers?

And in what way would he be crazy and how does working for Lexus make any difference?

Yes, that can HANDLE the cold, not that are specifically designed to perform in the cold. A/S tires need to have a balance and don't perform as well as a dedicated summer tire in the heat or a dedicated winter tire in the cold.