93LSOwner

I was browsing Car and Driver.com and looked at the LS600HL video. I remember riding in the back seat of our realtor’s 2000 Ford Windstar. It sure will be nice to ride in a LS600 ;)

Yup, paint match. Also part of the doors are on the roof so the bottom will have to be painted as well.

Sounds like you are pretty eager for an upgrade………

Sorry, I should have mentioned this does not include inside of the doors, under the hood or trunk just the outsides. You are correct about the warranty. As for #2, I am pretty certain their paint is not going to last too long after the warranty runs out and neither is this car 7 years from now. I am just wondering why they are so cheap (compared to the other one). I mean I rather have the car like this instead of a faded Macco painted looking car 3-4 years from now. See all four doors and fenders look excellent and I am not sure repainting them from $1200 people is a good idea. So, I am in a little bit of a dilemma here.

They don't have a black plate with gold "LEXUS" on it?

I got two quotes from major car dealers’ body shops in my area. From the painters to blend in the color, they will have to paint all four of the fenders, two up front for the hood and two in the back for the trunk. As for the roof, part of the doors (above the window) will get painted, so the bottom of the doors will have to be painted as well. So, basically the whole car with exception to the bottom darker moldings and bumpers will be painted. Quote #1: $2500 without bottom molding and bumpers with lifetime warranty. This is a body shop of a dealer who owns the local Toyota, Nissan, Honda, GMC, Mitsubishi, Isuzu dealership and of course all the cars from these dealerships go to this one body shop. Body labor 23.7 hrs @ $40/hr. Paint labor 24.2 hrs @ $40/hr. Paint supplies 24.2 hrs. @ $24/hr. Total after tax $2512 Quote #2: $1200 without bottom molding and bumpers & $1550 with bottom molding and bumpers all with 7 year warranty. This is the body shop of the local Ford dealership. Both will take about a week. My question is that are these two prices the two extremes (for a regular paint job, excluding Macco)? One being extremely cheap and the other overly priced?

Hey we wanna see them too.....you can upload them to the member's gallery.

My thinking is the value of the car will be raised at least as much as the paint job will cost. And I'm planning on driving this for a while since mechanically it is pretty sound. I think the bad paint will push the value of the car quite a bit below book. Maybe I'm wrong. David All your points are true concerning book value before and after paint. I want to sell this as is. If I get it painted then I’m keeping it. But now I want something smaller with better fuel efficiency, and of course not a Lexus.

Ah, so I'm not alone on this one. The highest I'm going is $1k, other than that according to KBB it’s not worth my money or the painter’s time, HA!

"last week about 4,000 students learned they had been given the wrong score on the October SAT." Full article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11788171/site/newsweek/ To me it’s like stabbing someone to death, than taking their internal organs and feeding it to tigers. OH I’m sorry, I really didn’t mean it, hope you have a good after life.

OH and the clear is pealing as we speak. It is a clear thin film, maybe its something else, I don’t know maybe you can tell me. I’m not really sure how to explain it, like I said before it’s similar to when you get sunburn and the skin peals off. It lifts up or bubbles up and if you touch it, it breaks off. This is description is of the roof and trunk. I don’t have time to go around body shops, semester is about to end. I’ll update later in the month with prices.

That was unnecessary and uncalled for.

The car was only taken to the car wash 2-3 times. I’m telling you that there were scratches on it. Not like one or two, hundreds of them. If you look at the hood, the paint is only damaged in the area where 98% of the scratches were. May be sun damages at the center only, I don’t know. Also, I should clarify that “day one” meant the day I bought the car, in Dec. 2003. It spent 10 years with two owners, before it got to me.

Who’s that guff ball in the first picture? Ruined the whole picture. ;) Those rims look very nice; really go with the car and its color in my opinion. What percent is your window tint and size of the wheels? I wish my car was black jade..........

Thank you very much RFeldes, I try my best to preserve and invest my parents’ money.

OH man, I was writing my last response while you were yours. Well if you guys want the whole story: My parents bought this car when I was in High School. The summer after I graduated my brother (senior in college) needed a car go to do research at Emory University, internship sponsored by Howard Hughes Medical Institute. That’s the summer he took the car to an automatic car wash several times, not everyone knows about automatic car washes. I’m not sorry for what I have done. Currently I attend the same university he graduated from a year later (as a valedictorian); he has been a vital part of my college applications to the actual classes. That guy has done more for me than anyone else. Lending out this car was the least I can do for him. Actually as a freshman you can’t have cars on campus. As a freshman I got a *BLEEP*ty class English 101 at 7 pm. To 9 p.m.! He would drive up to my dorm in this car so I wouldn’t have to walk across campus in the cold night! But I wasn’t all this perky and happy when this happened. I don’t know why I got all fired up about it. Now, that I look back I realize this is someone else’s used up more than a decade old piece of metal with a “L” on it. There is a thin line between cars and people. Btw: From that research, his article is about to be published.

Yeah, that's what I would have guessed as well. But, I don't know if they might charge me more because the surface is damaged or if they are going to sand it out, most if it is already sanded out! lol.....nah. Actually, my friend with similar damage was quoted $600-700 for the roof and trunk. The guy said he would paint the sides a little bit too and his paint is not going to stick out. I need to go out and get me some quotes because I'm not spending more than $1k, because of the book value. Automatic car wash = disaster Lending your car to loved ones = total destruction

This is an overview of to take out the cabin air filter for 1993&1994 LS400, I don’t know if 1990-1992 have cabin air filters. http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/show..._Removal?full=1 At first all the wires looked intimidating with the panel off; one of the wing nuts is circled: http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/show...de_of_the_panel The cover looks like this with the two wings nuts at the end (I recommend you cover the carpet and mats beneath with some plastic or old cloth because leaves and dirt is going to spill out as soon as you take out the cover) Pull the first filter out 75% of the way and then tilt it slightly to the left and then take it out. Pull the second on toward your self and do the same: http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/shows/The_cover Mine looked like these: http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/shows/Air_Filters

Garage, clay, polish, wax (which I still do) since day one.

Miles are pretty low. Congrats

Yup. I did not drive the car the past 2 years, family members did. Okay, the scratches were as if you take a knife and make long incisions across the palm of your hand, much like this: ]\\]\/\]\]\\\/ ]\\/\/]]\\/\\\ It used to look like this:

No the car has original paint all around.

The actual question is lost in the pictures so: What kind of repair bill am I looking at? Of course excluding Maaco…..

Well over the past two years the paint on the hood, roof and trunk have been severely damaged by an automatic car wash found at BP gas station and a little bit of sun damage, but not much. At first they were just deep down harsh scratches and gradually spread and took of the clear, the actual paint and perhaps the primer off as well. Now, films of clear coat just peals off, much like if you get sun burned and your skin flakes off……..lol…..one time in the parking lot from a distance I saw water on my car in a hot sunny day, when I came up close it was flaked with clear coat! The paint on both of the sides, all fenders and doors are just like when I bought the car near perfect. “Viewers discretion advised some pictures may contain content not suitable for weak hearted Lexus owners” For larger version: http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/shows/Hood_3?full=1 For larger version: http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/shows/Hood_4?full=1 For larger version: http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/shows/Hood_2?full=1 For larger version: http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/show...ont_Roof?full=1 For larger version: http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/shows/Roof_1?full=1 For larger version: http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/shows/Roof_2?full=1 http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/shows/Trunk?full=1 For larger version: http://us.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/shows/Trunk_1?full=1 What kind of repair bill I am looking at? If you respond Please DO NOT QUOTE me you will duplicate the pictures into your post.

Yup, the Legend was the first Honda luxury car introduced to U.S.