2010 Is 350 - Speculation?

[shamoo]

I am anxiously awaiting the chance to become a part of the Lexus community... after a broad search of the various sport sedans out there. I decided the Lexus IS 350 is the best for my needs. I've decided to wait for the 2010 models to become available but I just can't get a peep out of anyone or even find a blurb about what to expect in the new models or even when to expect them. (One dealer had the audacity to tell me it might not come out until december 09, I hung up on him).

So to kill time, I thought, why not start a rumor mill.

Here's what I have gathered.

1. Release date will be near the end of August.

2. I might have to wait until August before I am able to custom order. Why custom order? Because apparently, the rumor is the the Mark Levinson systems will not be equipped in most shipped models... they will have a "premium" audio system but not true ML unless special ordered.

3. There will be some minor changes to the grill, so the exterior will change slightly.

4. Nav will be hard drive and incorporate XM traffic.

If anyone can confirm these rumors or add to them, you will aid in my misery of waiting. How miserable am I? I'm driving a 2000 Accord that is falling apart.

If you have any rumors/info about changes to the F-sport line or accessories, that would be of interest as well. The setup I'm looking for is 2010 IS 350, Starfire pearl, Lux package + Nav + ML, 18" G-spider rims, F-sport exhaust, ground kit.

[Lexusfreak]

I am anxiously awaiting the chance to become a part of the Lexus community... after a broad search of the various sport sedans out there. I decided the Lexus IS 350 is the best for my needs. I've decided to wait for the 2010 models to become available but I just can't get a peep out of anyone or even find a blurb about what to expect in the new models or even when to expect them. (One dealer had the audacity to tell me it might not come out until december 09, I hung up on him).

So to kill time, I thought, why not start a rumor mill.

Here's what I have gathered.

1. Release date will be near the end of August.

2. I might have to wait until August before I am able to custom order. Why custom order? Because apparently, the rumor is the the Mark Levinson systems will not be equipped in most shipped models... they will have a "premium" audio system but not true ML unless special ordered.

3. There will be some minor changes to the grill, so the exterior will change slightly.

4. Nav will be hard drive and incorporate XM traffic.

If anyone can confirm these rumors or add to them, you will aid in my misery of waiting. How miserable am I? I'm driving a 2000 Accord that is falling apart.

If you have any rumors/info about changes to the F-sport line or accessories, that would be of interest as well. The setup I'm looking for is 2010 IS 350, Starfire pearl, Lux package + Nav + ML, 18" G-spider rims, F-sport exhaust, ground kit.

Lexus & Toyota are almost impossible to get any info out of before the next model year is released & not much accurate info is ever 'leaked'.......I did just get my September 2009 issue of Motortrend however that has a quick run down of any significant changes or brand new models...

Other than the IS drop tops & the IS-F getting a new limited slip diff & 19" wheels....the regular IS models get (Drum roll please)...

- Bluetooth, iPod/USB inputs, safety connect & new Nav packages with Enform telematics...

Sum Up & I quote... "Close to a 3 series, but still no cigar" with a rating of 3.5 stars out of 5 (no mention of any cosmetic changes on the exterior or interior). Best I can do. :)

[shamoo]

I am anxiously awaiting the chance to become a part of the Lexus community... after a broad search of the various sport sedans out there. I decided the Lexus IS 350 is the best for my needs. I've decided to wait for the 2010 models to become available but I just can't get a peep out of anyone or even find a blurb about what to expect in the new models or even when to expect them. (One dealer had the audacity to tell me it might not come out until december 09, I hung up on him).

So to kill time, I thought, why not start a rumor mill.

Here's what I have gathered.

1. Release date will be near the end of August.

2. I might have to wait until August before I am able to custom order. Why custom order? Because apparently, the rumor is the the Mark Levinson systems will not be equipped in most shipped models... they will have a "premium" audio system but not true ML unless special ordered.

3. There will be some minor changes to the grill, so the exterior will change slightly.

4. Nav will be hard drive and incorporate XM traffic.

If anyone can confirm these rumors or add to them, you will aid in my misery of waiting. How miserable am I? I'm driving a 2000 Accord that is falling apart.

If you have any rumors/info about changes to the F-sport line or accessories, that would be of interest as well. The setup I'm looking for is 2010 IS 350, Starfire pearl, Lux package + Nav + ML, 18" G-spider rims, F-sport exhaust, ground kit.

Lexus & Toyota are almost impossible to get any info out of before the next model year is released & not much accurate info is ever 'leaked'.......I did just get my September 2009 issue of Motortrend however that has a quick run down of any significant changes or brand new models...

Other than the IS drop tops & the IS-F getting a new limited slip diff & 19" wheels....the regular IS models get (Drum roll please)...

- Bluetooth, iPod/USB inputs, safety connect & new Nav packages with Enform telematics...

Sum Up & I quote... "Close to a 3 series, but still no cigar" with a rating of 3.5 stars out of 5 (no mention of any cosmetic changes on the exterior or interior). Best I can do. :)

Ugh, some reviewers are so biased.

New 19" wheels for the IS-F means that the F-sport wheels are getting an update huh? Cool, cuz I kind of wanted a different option in 19". Thanks for the info!

[Lexusfreak]

Ugh, some reviewers are so biased.

New 19" wheels for the IS-F means that the F-sport wheels are getting an update huh? Cool, cuz I kind of wanted a different option in 19". Thanks for the info!

Glad I could help. :)

Of course you only have about a month or so I would guess until the model is on dealer lots & the new brochures are available.

[foxwiz]

I am anxiously awaiting the chance to become a part of the Lexus community... after a broad search of the various sport sedans out there. I decided the Lexus IS 350 is the best for my needs. I've decided to wait for the 2010 models to become available but I just can't get a peep out of anyone or even find a blurb about what to expect in the new models or even when to expect them. (One dealer had the audacity to tell me it might not come out until december 09, I hung up on him).

So to kill time, I thought, why not start a rumor mill.

Here's what I have gathered.

1. Release date will be near the end of August.

2. I might have to wait until August before I am able to custom order. Why custom order? Because apparently, the rumor is the the Mark Levinson systems will not be equipped in most shipped models... they will have a "premium" audio system but not true ML unless special ordered.

3. There will be some minor changes to the grill, so the exterior will change slightly.

4. Nav will be hard drive and incorporate XM traffic.

If anyone can confirm these rumors or add to them, you will aid in my misery of waiting. How miserable am I? I'm driving a 2000 Accord that is falling apart.

If you have any rumors/info about changes to the F-sport line or accessories, that would be of interest as well. The setup I'm looking for is 2010 IS 350, Starfire pearl, Lux package + Nav + ML, 18" G-spider rims, F-sport exhaust, ground kit.

Wow - A dealer had the "audacity" to give his opinion about when the vehicle will be coming out and you hung up on him? A little harsh don't you think? Usually in America we can express our opinions.

[NicLX470]

Shamoo don't forget about the HID headlights with AFS. You want that too. And honestly I don't think the ML system is worth it. I test drove with the premium system that is standard and also one with the ML and they are both very great systems. I could not tell a difference at all with the same settings applied. I doubt you will be able to tell the difference other than there are a few more speakers. So make sure you listen to both of the systems so you know for sure the extra price will be worth it to you.

And also I got my 09 IS350 November 10th of 08 so they should at least be available by that time if not sooner.

[shamoo]

I am anxiously awaiting the chance to become a part of the Lexus community... after a broad search of the various sport sedans out there. I decided the Lexus IS 350 is the best for my needs. I've decided to wait for the 2010 models to become available but I just can't get a peep out of anyone or even find a blurb about what to expect in the new models or even when to expect them. (One dealer had the audacity to tell me it might not come out until december 09, I hung up on him).

So to kill time, I thought, why not start a rumor mill.

Here's what I have gathered.

1. Release date will be near the end of August.

2. I might have to wait until August before I am able to custom order. Why custom order? Because apparently, the rumor is the the Mark Levinson systems will not be equipped in most shipped models... they will have a "premium" audio system but not true ML unless special ordered.

3. There will be some minor changes to the grill, so the exterior will change slightly.

4. Nav will be hard drive and incorporate XM traffic.

If anyone can confirm these rumors or add to them, you will aid in my misery of waiting. How miserable am I? I'm driving a 2000 Accord that is falling apart.

If you have any rumors/info about changes to the F-sport line or accessories, that would be of interest as well. The setup I'm looking for is 2010 IS 350, Starfire pearl, Lux package + Nav + ML, 18" G-spider rims, F-sport exhaust, ground kit.

Wow - A dealer had the "audacity" to give his opinion about when the vehicle will be coming out and you hung up on him? A little harsh don't you think? Usually in America we can express our opinions.

No the problem was that 1, no one in their right minds would suggest the 2010 is coming out in December, second, the reason he was saying that was just to push me into an 09, trying to make it sound like I may have to wait months and months. That's just dishonest. Of course, maybe he was horribly uninformed, which again, is kind of silly when it's your job. Hence the hang up.

As for premium vs ML, that's an interesting point.. it might be why my (more reliable) dealer told me that most models are now going to be shipped without the ML... I guess the .01 THD vs .1 THD isn't noticeable. I think the HID and AFS are part of the luxury package.

[bartkat]

When is the 2010 model going to be available? If you order one, it can take 3 to 6 months to get it anyway. Do you just call dealers until you get the answer you were looking for? Is it really a good idea to spread rumors on a message board? I'm not sure. I think I'll hang up on this thread. Good luck.

[shamoo]

When is the 2010 model going to be available? If you order one, it can take 3 to 6 months to get it anyway. Do you just call dealers until you get the answer you were looking for? Is it really a good idea to spread rumors on a message board? I'm not sure. I think I'll hang up on this thread. Good luck.

Weird! Mellow down, this is hardly a serious discussion!

Sorry if this chit chat seems to offend you? Perhaps there are one too many dealers frequenting this forum. If so, perhaps you dealers should understand that a customer's concerns are a priority, not your desire to get him into any car you can. Twisting the truth to your own ends may work on some customers, but it can backfire if you come across as disingenuous. Those are the only dealers I give up on. There's one I am talking to right now who is worlds above the others in knowledge honesty and all-around just being a nice person. He's going to get 100% of my business, and I think I'm going to have to pay almost retail too (though I'll try to at least squeeze something extra out of the deal).

Yes it can take 3 months to get a car by order (not 6 from what I'm told) but if the config I'm looking for isn't available, I have no choice but to wait longer. One odd thing a dealer told me was that if I order now, I'll probably get a 2010, but then he started saying since he doesn't have the new pricing he didn't know if that was possible.

When a product is much loved and anticipated, you will find many rumors regarding it! I love this car! :D

[bartkat]

When is the 2010 model going to be available? If you order one, it can take 3 to 6 months to get it anyway. Do you just call dealers until you get the answer you were looking for? Is it really a good idea to spread rumors on a message board? I'm not sure. I think I'll hang up on this thread. Good luck.

Weird! Mellow down, this is hardly a serious discussion!

Sorry if this chit chat seems to offend you? Perhaps there are one too many dealers frequenting this forum. If so, perhaps you dealers should understand that a customer's concerns are a priority, not your desire to get him into any car you can. Twisting the truth to your own ends may work on some customers, but it can backfire if you come across as disingenuous. Those are the only dealers I give up on. There's one I am talking to right now who is worlds above the others in knowledge honesty and all-around just being a nice person. He's going to get 100% of my business, and I think I'm going to have to pay almost retail too (though I'll try to at least squeeze something extra out of the deal).

Yes it can take 3 months to get a car by order (not 6 from what I'm told) but if the config I'm looking for isn't available, I have no choice but to wait longer. One odd thing a dealer told me was that if I order now, I'll probably get a 2010, but then he started saying since he doesn't have the new pricing he didn't know if that was possible.

When a product is much loved and anticipated, you will find many rumors regarding it! I love this car! :D

It's as serious as we the moderators and management want it to be young man. We will be the ones to decide that. If you want to dealer bash, go ahead if justified, but mod bashing is frowned upon on this forum. Now you chill before your mouth gets you off to a bad start on LOC.

[steviej]

No the problem was that 1, no one in their right minds would suggest the 2010 is coming out in December, second, the reason he was saying that was just to push me into an 09, trying to make it sound like I may have to wait months and months. That's just dishonest. Of course, maybe he was horribly uninformed, which again, is kind of silly when it's your job. Hence the hang up.

naah, that's not dishonest, that's sales!! :P

steviej

[shamoo]

When is the 2010 model going to be available? If you order one, it can take 3 to 6 months to get it anyway. Do you just call dealers until you get the answer you were looking for? Is it really a good idea to spread rumors on a message board? I'm not sure. I think I'll hang up on this thread. Good luck.

Weird! Mellow down, this is hardly a serious discussion!

Sorry if this chit chat seems to offend you? Perhaps there are one too many dealers frequenting this forum. If so, perhaps you dealers should understand that a customer's concerns are a priority, not your desire to get him into any car you can. Twisting the truth to your own ends may work on some customers, but it can backfire if you come across as disingenuous. Those are the only dealers I give up on. There's one I am talking to right now who is worlds above the others in knowledge honesty and all-around just being a nice person. He's going to get 100% of my business, and I think I'm going to have to pay almost retail too (though I'll try to at least squeeze something extra out of the deal).

Yes it can take 3 months to get a car by order (not 6 from what I'm told) but if the config I'm looking for isn't available, I have no choice but to wait longer. One odd thing a dealer told me was that if I order now, I'll probably get a 2010, but then he started saying since he doesn't have the new pricing he didn't know if that was possible.

When a product is much loved and anticipated, you will find many rumors regarding it! I love this car! :D

It's as serious as we the moderators and management want it to be young man. We will be the ones to decide that. If you want to dealer bash, go ahead if justified, but mod bashing is frowned upon on this forum. Now you chill before your mouth gets you off to a bad start on LOC.

Bartkat,

Just to make sure "my mouth" doesn't get me into more "trouble," could you please point out where I was "mod bashing." Just want to make sure I understand what you define as mod bashing and/or unacceptable/disruptive behavior. I agree that mod bashing (and member bashing for that matter) is not conducive to anyone. Sorry you took it that way, but looking over my reply to you, I think it was appropriate considering your comments to me.

This a car lovers forum... I cannot think of another place that is meant to be more relaxing and cool, in other words, one place where you dont have to be so serious! You're giving me a rather cold reception as a mod.

[bartkat]

When is the 2010 model going to be available? If you order one, it can take 3 to 6 months to get it anyway. Do you just call dealers until you get the answer you were looking for? Is it really a good idea to spread rumors on a message board? I'm not sure. I think I'll hang up on this thread. Good luck.

Weird! Mellow down, this is hardly a serious discussion!

Sorry if this chit chat seems to offend you? Perhaps there are one too many dealers frequenting this forum. If so, perhaps you dealers should understand that a customer's concerns are a priority, not your desire to get him into any car you can. Twisting the truth to your own ends may work on some customers, but it can backfire if you come across as disingenuous. Those are the only dealers I give up on. There's one I am talking to right now who is worlds above the others in knowledge honesty and all-around just being a nice person. He's going to get 100% of my business, and I think I'm going to have to pay almost retail too (though I'll try to at least squeeze something extra out of the deal).

Yes it can take 3 months to get a car by order (not 6 from what I'm told) but if the config I'm looking for isn't available, I have no choice but to wait longer. One odd thing a dealer told me was that if I order now, I'll probably get a 2010, but then he started saying since he doesn't have the new pricing he didn't know if that was possible.

When a product is much loved and anticipated, you will find many rumors regarding it! I love this car! :D

It's as serious as we the moderators and management want it to be young man. We will be the ones to decide that. If you want to dealer bash, go ahead if justified, but mod bashing is frowned upon on this forum. Now you chill before your mouth gets you off to a bad start on LOC.

Bartkat,

Just to make sure "my mouth" doesn't get me into more "trouble," could you please point out where I was "mod bashing." Just want to make sure I understand what you define as mod bashing and/or unacceptable/disruptive behavior. I agree that mod bashing (and member bashing for that matter) is not conducive to anyone. Sorry you took it that way, but looking over my reply to you, I think it was appropriate considering your comments to me.

This a car lovers forum... I cannot think of another place that is meant to be more relaxing and cool, in other words, one place where you dont have to be so serious! You're giving me a rather cold reception as a mod.

Weird! Mellow down, this is hardly a serious discussion!

Sorry if this chit chat seems to offend you? Perhaps there are one too many dealers frequenting this forum. If so, perhaps you dealers should understand that a customer's concerns are a priority, not your desire to get him into any car you can. Twisting the truth to your own ends may work on some customers, but it can backfire if you come across as disingenuous.

We aren't dealers. No one took offense. When I said chill i meant chill. Got anything else take it to PM. Your very manner in telling me/us how to run a car forum in your latest post is not exactly a friendly remark. Just letting you know that. No offense intended.

[foxwiz]

When is the 2010 model going to be available? If you order one, it can take 3 to 6 months to get it anyway. Do you just call dealers until you get the answer you were looking for? Is it really a good idea to spread rumors on a message board? I'm not sure. I think I'll hang up on this thread. Good luck.

Weird! Mellow down, this is hardly a serious discussion!

Sorry if this chit chat seems to offend you? Perhaps there are one too many dealers frequenting this forum. If so, perhaps you dealers should understand that a customer's concerns are a priority, not your desire to get him into any car you can. Twisting the truth to your own ends may work on some customers, but it can backfire if you come across as disingenuous. Those are the only dealers I give up on. There's one I am talking to right now who is worlds above the others in knowledge honesty and all-around just being a nice person. He's going to get 100% of my business, and I think I'm going to have to pay almost retail too (though I'll try to at least squeeze something extra out of the deal).

Yes it can take 3 months to get a car by order (not 6 from what I'm told) but if the config I'm looking for isn't available, I have no choice but to wait longer. One odd thing a dealer told me was that if I order now, I'll probably get a 2010, but then he started saying since he doesn't have the new pricing he didn't know if that was possible.

When a product is much loved and anticipated, you will find many rumors regarding it! I love this car! :D

It's as serious as we the moderators and management want it to be young man. We will be the ones to decide that. If you want to dealer bash, go ahead if justified, but mod bashing is frowned upon on this forum. Now you chill before your mouth gets you off to a bad start on LOC.

Bartkat,

Just to make sure "my mouth" doesn't get me into more "trouble," could you please point out where I was "mod bashing." Just want to make sure I understand what you define as mod bashing and/or unacceptable/disruptive behavior. I agree that mod bashing (and member bashing for that matter) is not conducive to anyone. Sorry you took it that way, but looking over my reply to you, I think it was appropriate considering your comments to me.

This a car lovers forum... I cannot think of another place that is meant to be more relaxing and cool, in other words, one place where you dont have to be so serious! You're giving me a rather cold reception as a mod.

Chill out and go for a nice drive. Turn up the radio and don't sweat the small stuff.

[tex2670]

When is the 2010 model going to be available? If you order one, it can take 3 to 6 months to get it anyway. Do you just call dealers until you get the answer you were looking for? Is it really a good idea to spread rumors on a message board? I'm not sure. I think I'll hang up on this thread. Good luck.

Weird! Mellow down, this is hardly a serious discussion!

Sorry if this chit chat seems to offend you? Perhaps there are one too many dealers frequenting this forum. If so, perhaps you dealers should understand that a customer's concerns are a priority, not your desire to get him into any car you can. Twisting the truth to your own ends may work on some customers, but it can backfire if you come across as disingenuous. Those are the only dealers I give up on. There's one I am talking to right now who is worlds above the others in knowledge honesty and all-around just being a nice person. He's going to get 100% of my business, and I think I'm going to have to pay almost retail too (though I'll try to at least squeeze something extra out of the deal).

Yes it can take 3 months to get a car by order (not 6 from what I'm told) but if the config I'm looking for isn't available, I have no choice but to wait longer. One odd thing a dealer told me was that if I order now, I'll probably get a 2010, but then he started saying since he doesn't have the new pricing he didn't know if that was possible.

When a product is much loved and anticipated, you will find many rumors regarding it! I love this car! :D

It's as serious as we the moderators and management want it to be young man. We will be the ones to decide that. If you want to dealer bash, go ahead if justified, but mod bashing is frowned upon on this forum. Now you chill before your mouth gets you off to a bad start on LOC.

Bartkat,

Just to make sure "my mouth" doesn't get me into more "trouble," could you please point out where I was "mod bashing." Just want to make sure I understand what you define as mod bashing and/or unacceptable/disruptive behavior. I agree that mod bashing (and member bashing for that matter) is not conducive to anyone. Sorry you took it that way, but looking over my reply to you, I think it was appropriate considering your comments to me.

This a car lovers forum... I cannot think of another place that is meant to be more relaxing and cool, in other words, one place where you dont have to be so serious! You're giving me a rather cold reception as a mod.

Maybe you don't know what "Super Moderator" means in the signature block? It doesn't mean "Dealer".

Welcome to the LOC. Enjoy your short stay.

[SW03ES]

Its incredibly frustrating for our members and moderators when everybody always accuses us of being dealers or secret operatives for Lexus whenever we voice an opinion that might give a Lexus dealer, or Lexus in general the benefit of the doubt. Nobody involved in the administration of this site works for Lexus, or a Lexus dealer.

[shamoo]

In case anyone is interested, pricing information for the 2010 as well as a few other details were released to dealers last week. A few notable things, MSRP is going up about $540 but the pitch is that there are some extras included like the telematics system, XM radio Ipod etc., and also there are some discounts on the option packages. No major changes for 2010 were noted, but that was a short sales memo focused on pricing so it wasn't very detailed. The ISF will get a TORSEN LSD and new wheels.

This supposedly means the 2010s are in production, and so if you are one of those anxiously waiting to get one as soon as possible, contact your dealer and they can apparently take your info and send it to Lexus to expedite your order.

[tex2670]

In case anyone is interested, pricing information for the 2010 as well as a few other details were released to dealers last week. A few notable things, MSRP is going up about $540 but the pitch is that there are some extras included like the telematics system, XM radio Ipod etc., and also there are some discounts on the option packages. No major changes for 2010 were noted, but that was a short sales memo focused on pricing so it wasn't very detailed. The ISF will get a TORSEN LSD and new wheels.

This supposedly means the 2010s are in production, and so if you are one of those anxiously waiting to get one as soon as possible, contact your dealer and they can apparently take your info and send it to Lexus to expedite your order.

For $500, they add telematics (which were never before an option), XM and iPod???? I'll believe it when I see it on the website--sounds like more dealer BS.

[SW03ES]

I'd buy it...