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Have you ever used NXT?

Why do you always have to play the victim? Its pathetic. At no point did I ever discount what you do, I just say I do it differently and it doesn't make me wrong. For the record I am completely aware of what a UOA is. I simply have no interest in getting one. Never needed one before. I also find it funny that you're preaching to me about saving money when you advocated replacing yellowed headlights instead of cleaning them at a cost of several thousand dollars because "the car was so expensive, its silly to complain about the cost of the lights" and "your time is too valuable to be bothered polishing them". This is pointless. Another oil thread closed.

So you don't care about the value of your property? Why bother changing the oil at all? I would guess maybe .5% of people do oil analysis, if even that. So everyone else is just a blind guesser? Its amazing our cars still run. .The oil is $25. Honestly no, $25 is not a lot of money to me. Plus I have faith should I ever have a warranty issue or when I go to sell my car, I will have less problems because I have maintained the car to the factory specifications. Honestly, no you are not tolerant of people's viewpoints. I know, because I have to make excuses for you when other members and moderators complain about you always driving people who disagree with you to a flamewar. Why is it that we can't have a discussion on this forum about oil? Its because of you. You get downright abusive towards people... I have owned several vehicles past 100k miles and have always changed my oil as per the manufacturer's specs. It works for me, as it works for the vast majority of car owners as well. What you do works for you which is great, but it is no more "fact" than the way I do it.

They will anyways haha.

You misunderstand what I am saying. If I were a carbuyer and I didn't know you and your car was for sale. I would not buy your car because the oil has not been changed as per the manufacturer's reccomendations, whether you showed me a bunch of oil analyses that I didn't really understand or not. Oil colors absolutely do mean something. If synthetic oil gets black...its taken on something to turn it black. How else otherwise did it get black? No, I don't do oil analysis. I don't see the point, I change my oil as per my manufacturer's reccomendations and I'm happy with that. Contrary to what you're saying here I am not stupid or a joke because I don't agree with you. Yeah the service manager, you think maybe he had some idea what an oil analysis is? Most carbuyers do not, and would simply move on down to the next car from yours instead of listening to you explain it. I'm not saying you don't know what you're doing, thats certainly not the case. I have stood up for you on this subject many times before and you know that. What I AM saying is that I have absolutely no desire to do what you do, I just change the oil every 5k miles. I enjoy doing what I feel is right for the car, its cheap, and when I go to sell it I'll have a big ol stack of Lexus dealer maintenance records to make sure MY ES is the first on any buyer's list. Makes me happy. What you need to learn is to be tolerant of other people's viewpoints.

Thats what german and american designers have never understood "boring and bland" translates into "staying power". The LS still looks so good precisely because of its simple, timeless lines. Think about the Acura Legend...

For instance I use Pledge on the wood. If it works on wood...it works on wood.

I agree, I just wish I had more disposable income lying around to dispose on some of those deals lol

I honestly have never had anyone tell me it looks like a Buick. As for liking the 300/330 better than the 350, I only like the interior better. I prefer the exterior and the ride and drive of the 350. The interior of the 350 is too spartan for me.

It all depends. Anyone can do the service, Toyota, an independent mechanic, you, a gas station. Its not a complicated car to work on. The question is, do you feel that having it serviced at the dealer is important and worthwhile to you. In my experience the Lexus dealer is not THAT much more than Toyota. Sure they charged $99 vs $175. But for that $175 I got a Lexus loaner, and I don't have time to sit around and wait for the work to be done. At the Lexus dealer I drop it off the night before, get my loaner, and pick it up the next afternoon. In order to do that at Toyota I'd have to rent a car for 2 days at $30 a day and so I might save $15, but I'd have a crappy economy car and it'd be a hassle.

See this is my opinion. Pushing your oil like that and testing is a game for you and you enjoy it. When you add up the costs of running the same oil and testing it all the time and compare it to the cost of changing the oil every 5k miles, I bet you wouldn't save much. Some, sure, but not enough to make it worth it down the line when you have to sell a buyer on your oil analysis, etc. I for instance would never buy your car, especially knowing the history that engine has with oil sludge. I run Mobil 1 synthetic and change every 5k miles...and when its changed the oil is dirty.

Thats an excellent price on the 90k service from the dealer. I paid $1000 I think which was also a good price around here. I like using the dealer too, even if it costs me more. Its a really enjoyable experience and IMHO, part of why I own a Lexus. Don't worry about the water pump, its not part of the 90k on the ES.

I cleaned up the thread. DO NOT degrade this thread into another oil war. Give your opinions to the OP and move on. IMHO, you're better off doing it every 5k miles. Oil changes are cheap, cheap assurance and when you go to sell the car having only done oil changes every 10k miles when the manual says 5k is going to hurt you in the eyes of a buyer.

No comparison, the LS is much more car.

I was quoted $4k off MSRP on a UL ES350 about a month ago, this was with zero negotiation whatsoever. IMHO you can do better than $2k over invoice, especially if its not a UL. It varies by market though.

I'm not offended, I just honestly don't see any resemblance. This is the first I've ever heard of anybody seeing a resemblance either...

But was an an OEM door.LMAO... Only the best hahaha

Never heard of it. Worth a shot on the wood, I wouldn't use it on the paint.

Honestly, with a Lexus dealer the old "wait for the end of the month" business is outdated. Contact the internet sales manager and ask them for a quote and shop that way. All the other stuff is just a game. These guys know internet consumers, they know you don't want to play games and they will give you a good price that you can easily compare with the Internet Sales Departments at other dealers. As for the warranty, you can buy it all the way up until the original 4/50k warranty expires. No need to worry about it now.

I don't think it looks anything like the LeSabre. Now, the Buick Lacrosse looks JUST like the 02-06 ES, but it came out after the ES did. I see absolutely no resemblance: Buick LeSabre: Lexus ES330: Now the Buick Lacrosse: But it was designed to look like the ES.

The average age is somewhere in the high 50s. Its probably somewhat lower for the 350 than for my generation, its a little sportier. I'm like you, cars like the IS and the 3 series BMW have no appeal to me. I like a large comfortable sedan. We are however odd for our age (I'm 26).

Sometimes is just good to try something new...

Thats pretty cool!

I'd make the dealer replace the leather on the seat bottom. No big deal and unlikely they can screw it up...

I dont know if GS or LS wheels will fit because of the offset. The GS and LS are RWD...