jaanah Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 I have a 92 ES-300 with 85000 miles on it. I was driving on the expressway and the engine stalled while the car was in motion. I brought the car to a complete stop and cranked the engine a few times, but it did not start. After continously cranking, it sputtered for 30 seconds and stopped again. A really nice tow truck guy tried to assist - checked if gas was flowing thru by loosening a blot just above the manifold and gas did come out. He then loosened the two bolts on this black casing on the right of the car next to the windshield washer fluid and told me my timing belt was broken. I was totally confused, I thought timing belts are on the front of the car. What is the belt inside this black casing that runs from the front to the back of the car right next to the windshield washer container ? How do I know if the timing belt is broken and if so the damage it caused ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amf1932 Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 That's the area of the timing belt all right! You have to remember that FWD cars have the engines installed sideways, so the belt is near the windshield washer tank, rather than the front on RWD cars. Most likely your engine would not be damaged because of the broken belt since it's called a non-interference type. Interference engines would have caused tremendous internal damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsal Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 yep thats the timing belt!be glad your engine isnt one of those interference types because then you would be replacing the whole motor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8R Proof Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Which engines are interference types and which aren't? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 any vvti engines are interferance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaanah Posted September 10, 2003 Author Share Posted September 10, 2003 Any ideas what it costs to replace the belt on the ES300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaupoman Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 What is 'vvti'. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviej Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Variable Valve Timing with intelligence. Introduced in 1999. (more added bells and whistles and money) sj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicecar Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 you may want to replace the water pump as well, my local mechanic charged me $450 for both parts and labor, toyota dealer wanted $927.68 plus tax, was afraid to get a quote from lexus dealer so i didn't call them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaupoman Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 steviej. Thans for the infor re vvti. Are you saying that a timing belt break in a 99 es 300 will ruin the engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amf1932 Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 YES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaupoman Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 WOO! Maybe it's a blessing to own an 98. Its seem like they are going backward in designing the vvti to cause more damage when the timing belt breaks. Then, I am no engineer. Anyone care to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amf1932 Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Actually, VVTI engines are supposed to be more efficient than the previous engines that Lexus used in the ES models. They could only get this higher efficiency by redesigning the combustion chamber which necessitated making it an interference type. In other words.....when the piston goes up and the valves open and close(with the proper timing) there is no problem.....but when a timing belt breaks and the valves open at the wrong time they interfere with the upward stroke of the piston....Zoooweee...you have crunched internal parts. Bent valves, bent rods, broken pistons, scored cylinder walls can be the result! In a non-interference engine with a broken timing belt the only thing that happens is the valves stop opening and closing......but they don't interfere with the motion of the pistons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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