pj8708 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 For what it's worth I agree too! :) Before I say, can I think about it? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 No! We need commitment now LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj8708 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 No! We need commitment now LOL I can't take this much pressure!! If I cave and say yes, will you still respect me in the morning?....Yea, I agree too!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RX350lover Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 In conclusion: 1) It seems that for someone who is buying and not leasing, buying a two year old Genesis will provide the greatest bang for the buck as depreciation for the Genesis is much greater than for the ES350. 2) For anyone who wishes to show off, there is only one choice, the Lexus. No matter what the ratings are saying. 3) Although Consumer Reports is a great magazine, in their ranking of the cars, one very important factor is missing because it cannot be truly evaluated. And that is the quality of service you will get at the dealer. If quality of customer service could be taken into account, the Lexus would no doubt be in first place and by a great margin. So in closing, the Genesis is more for value-oriented people who do not need to show off, are willing to deal with a product which isn't as mature and are willing to be treated with less dignity when requiring service at the dealer. So in the end, no car is number one. It is just different cars meeting different individual needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj8708 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 In conclusion: 1) It seems that for someone who is buying and not leasing, buying a two year old Genesis will provide the greatest bang for the buck as depreciation for the Genesis is much greater than for the ES350. 2) For anyone who wishes to show off, there is only one choice, the Lexus. No matter what the ratings are saying. 3) Although Consumer Reports is a great magazine, in their ranking of the cars, one very important factor is missing because it cannot be truly evaluated. And that is the quality of service you will get at the dealer. If quality of customer service could be taken into account, the Lexus would no doubt be in first place and by a great margin. So in closing, the Genesis is more for value-oriented people who do not need to show off, are willing to deal with a product which isn't as mature and are willing to be treated with less dignity when requiring service at the dealer. So in the end, no car is number one. It is just different cars meeting different individual needs. I think you got it...different cars, different needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj8708 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 This has been posted before but I thought it was perfect as a reminder of how great an automobile the ES350 is. Standing alone, the sedan gives the owner a generous amount of value for the investment. I don't have a comparable overview for the Genesis. Comments? http://www.lexusownersclub.com/news/date/2010-07-28/title/lexus-es-350-continues-to-symbolize-luxury-and-style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_es350 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 This has been posted before but I thought it was perfect as a reminder of how great an automobile the ES350 is. Standing alone, the sedan gives the owner a generous amount of value for the investment. I don't have a comparable overview for the Genesis. Comments? http://www.lexusownersclub.com/news/date/2010-07-28/title/lexus-es-350-continues-to-symbolize-luxury-and-style this is a company press release, not an article from a reviewing magazine or something similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj8708 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 This has been posted before but I thought it was perfect as a reminder of how great an automobile the ES350 is. Standing alone, the sedan gives the owner a generous amount of value for the investment. I don't have a comparable overview for the Genesis. Comments? You are right rob. I didn't mean it as a review of the car or a competitive analysis, but a summary of the plethora of features and equipment that make up the ES350. As I said, I feel it is a good value, and based on the number of people who are members of the club, a lot of people feel Lexus in general is a good value. Thanks for your comment rob. http://www.lexusownersclub.com/news/date/2010-07-28/title/lexus-es-350-continues-to-symbolize-luxury-and-style this is a company press release, not an article from a reviewing magazine or something similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_es350 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 This has been posted before but I thought it was perfect as a reminder of how great an automobile the ES350 is. Standing alone, the sedan gives the owner a generous amount of value for the investment. I don't have a comparable overview for the Genesis. Comments? You are right rob. I didn't mean it as a review of the car or a competitive analysis, but a summary of the plethora of features and equipment that make up the ES350. As I said, I feel it is a good value, and based on the number of people who are members of the club, a lot of people feel Lexus in general is a good value. Thanks for your comment rob. http://www.lexusownersclub.com/news/date/2010-07-28/title/lexus-es-350-continues-to-symbolize-luxury-and-style this is a company press release, not an article from a reviewing magazine or something similar o, I totally agree that you get an amazing amount of features and quality for your money they sell a tom of them, so that seems to be the consensus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj8708 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Not sure you agree, but I thought this was Germaine to our conversation. It appears you can't always believe the market reports regarding corporate sales and market share. A little surprised that a prestigious brand like Mercedes would resort to such a thing. http://www.autoblog.com/2011/10/20/deposed-mercedes-benz-usa-ceo-lieb-accused-of-financial-wrongdoi/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fautoblog+%28Autoblog%29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Wow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_es350 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 greed... not surprised at all...no shortage of US corporations getting caught doing MUCH worse..enron, tyco, and on and on and on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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