2007 Es

[Aija]

First, i did give credit for ES330 for being a good car for older people. When i was comparing the older generation ES to the current one, i said its more fun to drive. Some people dont care about how many units of the car is sold. The current one looks better, but to me , its alot more boring to drive.

To the guy who posted about BMW Reliability. I think we all know about german cars reliability. They get alot of electrical problems, i know from the 740iL. But ive seen (non v-8's) bmw go through very minor problems.

The current es330 is focused on the "baby boomers" generation. Their marketing is for 50+ old people. I think the LF-S is a bit lower generation of age (which is why theres notable difference in the car shapes). The toys of the es is great. I dont got anything to complain about except that you cannot input anything into the GPS system when you are moving. (it still locks on you if you are going 5mph) and unable to disable trac/avs control and transmission which im sure is going to be the same way for the next LF-S car (es). Im sure the 6-speed tranmission will have little less lag and navi 5 will continue hold the title for one of the best gps system.

If you talk about car crash ratings, any police officer will say that a "perfect car crash rating" can lead to disaster. Front crash test is done by crashing into a wall at 40MPH (i believe) and and measures the impact from their. So according to physics, if you crash a 3000 pound car at 40mph into a wall, its like saying a 3k pound car is crashing into your car. A honda civic crash ratings are "good" too but im sure if you crash , lets say a to a LS430, its a different story. Only side impact is probably a noteable rating.

Yes i know the car is my parents wallet, ill be exchanging cars this summer with my own money, (almost got my electrical engineer degree), and im favoring the bmw 335 comming out and the only lexus i compare with the 335 is the IS, which i believe falls short on sporty. I just get angry when someone says if you buy a sports car, you are going to crash.

[SW03ES]

Again, lets try to keep on the topic of the 2007 ES.

[darwin666]

Again, lets try to keep on the topic of the 2007 ES.

http://lexus.com/models/es/price_options.html

see the MSRP from the lexus website 33865$

I contacted one dealer and this is what I got

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The ES 350 has not arrived as of yet but it will be soon.

The MSRP of the base car is $37024 and has DC FJ FS HH HN PM WU as options.

The MSRP of the navigation car is $40749 and has FJ FS HL HN NV PT WU as options.

For the first time ever on the ES350 there will be a Untra Luxury version for $43989 the options on this car are $43989.

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why is there a difference of almost 3000 between lexus.com and the dealer ?

some more info from the dealer I contacted:

2007 ES 350 Sedan - Front Wheel Drive V6

EPA Fuel Economy: 21 City / 30 Hwy.

Acceleration: 0 – 60 MPH in 6.7 Seconds

Level 1 – Premium Package

MSRP – $37,024 (Approximate)

· Perforated Leather Interior Trim w/ 10 Way Power Front Seats

· California Burled Walnut Wood Interior Trim

· Power Tilt and Telescopic Steering Wheel w/ Audio & Display Functions

· 2 Position Driver Seat Memory (includes Steering Wheel and Mirrors)

· Smart Access Technology w/ Push Button Start

· Dual Zone Automatic Climate Control w/ Smog Sensor

· One Touch Up/Down Windows w/ Jam Protection

· One Touch Open/Close Moon Roof w/ Jam Protection & Tilt

· Heated and Ventilated Front Seats

· Automatic Projector Beam Halogen Headlights

· Power Rear Sunshade

· Variable Intermittent Windshield Wipers

· 8 Speaker Lexus Premium Audio System

· Bluetooth Compatible

· Miniplug Auxiliary Input for MP3 Player

· 6 Disc In Dash Single Feed CD Player

· Pre-wired for Satellite Radio

· 3.5 Liter DOHC, 24 Valve V6 w/ Dual VVT-i

· 272 Horsepower, 254 lb-ft Torque

· Six Speed Sequential Shift Automatic Transmission

· Vehicle Stability Control System w/ TRAC & ABS

· 8 Standard Airbags (Incl. Dual Knee & Twin Chamber Passenger)

· 17” Alloy Wheels – 7 Spoke Design w/ Summer Tires

· Tire Pressure Monitoring System – Direct Sensing

· Full Size Spare Tire

Level 2 - Navigation Package

MSRP – $40,749 (Approximate)

· Perforated Leather Interior Trim w/ 10 Way Power Front Seats

· California Burled Walnut Wood Interior Trim

· Power Tilt and Telescopic Steering Wheel w/ Audio & Display Functions

· 2 Position Driver Seat Memory (includes Steering Wheel and Mirrors)

· Driver’s Seat Power Cushion Extender

· 2 Position Passenger Seat Memory

· Smart Access Technology w/ Push Button Start

· Dual Zone Automatic Climate Control w/ Smog Sensor

· One Touch Up/Down Windows w/ Jam Protection

· One Touch Open/Close Moonroof w/ Jam Protection & Tilt

· Heated and Ventilated Front Seats

· Automatic Xenon Headlights with Dual Swivel AFS

· Power Rear Sunshade

· Rain Sensing Automatic Windshield Wipers

· 8 Speaker Lexus Premium Audio System

· Bluetooth Compatible

· Miniplug Auxiliary input for MP3 Player

· 6 Disc In Dash Single Feed CD Player

· Pre-wired for Satellite Radio

· 3.5 Liter DOHC, 24 Valve V6 w/ Dual VVT-i

· 272 Horsepower, 254 lb-ft Torque

· Six Speed Sequential Shift Automatic Transmission

· Vehicle Stability Control System w/ TRAC & ABS

· 8 Standard Airbags (Incl. Dual Knee & Twin Chamber Passenger)

· 17” Alloy Wheels – 7 Spoke Design w/ Summer Tires

· Tire Pressure Monitoring System – Direct Sensing

· Full Size Spare Tire

· Generation 5 Lexus DVD Based Navigation System w/ Voice Activation

· Rear Backup Camera

Level 3 – Ultra Luxury Selection

MSRP – $43,989 (Approximate)

· Perforated Leather Interior Trim w/ 10 Way Power Front Seats

· Semi-Aniline Leather Upgrade

· California Burled Walnut Wood Interior Trim

· Power Tilt and Telescopic Steering Wheel Audio & Display Functions

· 2 Position Driver Seat Memory (includes Steering Wheel and Mirrors)

· Driver’s Seat Power Cushion Extender

· 2 Position Passenger Seat Memory

· Smart Access Technology w/ Push Button Start

· Dual Zone Automatic Climate Control w/ Smog Sensor

· One Touch Up/Down Windows w/ Jam Protection

· One Touch Open/Close Panoramic Moon Roof w/ Jam Protection & Tilt

· Heated and Ventilated Front Seats

· Automatic Xenon Headlights with Dual Swivel AFS

· Power Rear Sunshade

· Rain Sensing Automatic Windshield Wipers

· 14 Speaker Mark Levinson Premium Audio System

· Bluetooth Compatible

· Miniplug Auxiliary input for MP3 Player

· 6 Disc In Dash Single Feed CD Player

· Cassette Player In Dash

· Pre-wired for Satellite Radio

· 3.5 Liter DOHC, 24 Valve V6 w/ Dual VVT-i

· 272 Horsepower, 254 lb-ft Torque

· Six Speed Sequential Shift Automatic Transmission

· Vehicle Stability Control System w/ TRAC & ABS

· 10 Airbags (Incl. Dual Knee, Twin Chamber Passenger,& Rear Seat Side)

· 17” Graphite Polished Alloy Wheels – 10 Spoke Design w/ Summer Tires

· Tire Pressure Monitoring System – Direct Sensing System

· Full Size Spare Tire

· Generation 5 Lexus DVD Based Navigation System w/ Voice Activation

· Rear Backup Camera

· Intuitive Parking Assist

[SW03ES]

The dealer's probably right. What they're saying is that while the car may start at $33,500 Lexus won't be building any that way. The car will ship only in these three ways unless you special order. Lexus has always done this.