LexKid630 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 What causes this black on the leather? I don't think it's just dirt, it seems that the top layer of the leather is pealed off. I don't know how leather can get this bad in such few years. These pics aren't mine, i found them online. This is absolutely disgusting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 The black is just dirt, the part thats split is actually vinyl. Thats caused by not caring for and conditioning the leather and not treating the vinyl. The rear seat is probably one of those dog barriers. In a true testement to how durable Leather is I probably could clean it so the leather looked new. Obviously nothing I could do about the split vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexKid630 Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 The black is just dirt, the part thats split is actually vinyl.Thats caused by not caring for and conditioning the leather and not treating the vinyl. The rear seat is probably one of those dog barriers. In a true testement to how durable Leather is I probably could clean it so the leather looked new. Obviously nothing I could do about the split vinyl. ← Can i use a leather cleaner and conditoner on the vinyl section (sides) of the seat? Ir does it require a different cleaner/conditioner etc. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91L3xus Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 To me it looks like water damage to some of the seats, I don't know if the passenger seat looks the same, but maybe if the owner left the sunroof open during a storm, soaked the seats, then dried without any of the water being collected first. Probably something in the driver's pocket tore the side, but I have no idea what could do that to the side of a seat. Just gotta be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Naa, I saw leather seats like that all the time when I was detailing cars for profit. Its just wear. You can use leather cleaner on the vinyl but conditioner won't do anything. You need a vinyl dressing like 303 Aerospace Protectant, Poorboys Natural Look, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexKid630 Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 Naa, I saw leather seats like that all the time when I was detailing cars for profit. Its just wear.You can use leather cleaner on the vinyl but conditioner won't do anything. You need a vinyl dressing like 303 Aerospace Protectant, Poorboys Natural Look, etc. ← I have some stuff (Amarol something) that states it shines and protects vinyl (like on the dashboard)...can i use this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexKid630 Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 To me it looks like water damage to some of the seats, I don't know if the passenger seat looks the same, but maybe if the owner left the sunroof open during a storm, soaked the seats, then dried without any of the water being collected first. Probably something in the driver's pocket tore the side, but I have no idea what could do that to the side of a seat. Just gotta be careful. ← It's so gross! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha4000 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 To me it looks like water damage to some of the seats, I don't know if the passenger seat looks the same, but maybe if the owner left the sunroof open during a storm, soaked the seats, then dried without any of the water being collected first. Probably something in the driver's pocket tore the side, but I have no idea what could do that to the side of a seat. Just gotta be careful. ← It's so gross! ← i know i would hate to have seats like that get a seat cover for the2 fronts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexKid630 Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 To me it looks like water damage to some of the seats, I don't know if the passenger seat looks the same, but maybe if the owner left the sunroof open during a storm, soaked the seats, then dried without any of the water being collected first. Probably something in the driver's pocket tore the side, but I have no idea what could do that to the side of a seat. Just gotta be careful. ← It's so gross! ← i know i would hate to have seats like that get a seat cover for the2 fronts ← that's not my rx300..i just found these pics. I would never let my seats get like this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOGWT Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Cleaning – Conditioning - Ultra Violet Radiation protection 1. Cleaning- use a soft horse hair brush (Groit's Leather & Interior Brush) and/or a vacuum to remove any dust, apply a cleaning solution (Water /Woolite® or Dreft® 6:1 ratio or stronger) on to an applicator pad and apply to one area at a time (i.e. a seat back). To remove stubborn dirt or grime gently agitate the surface with a boar's hair cleaning brush (this will not harm the leather) then use a clean, damp Microfiber towel to rinse. Maintenance cleaning- use a cleaning solution (Water /Woolite® or Dreft® 10:1 ratio) on to an applicator pad and apply to one area at a time Stubborn stains- dependent upon the leathers condition or how dirty it is consider using a leather-cleaning product. (Leatherique's Prestine Clean, Groit's Leather Cleaner or Autoglym Leather Cleaner) 2. Conditioning- recommend a preventative maintenance routine three to four times a year, once prior to the winter season to prevent cold temperatures cracking the leather, and once before the heat of the summer to prevent deterioration and shrinkage by heat, which result in continued cracking of leather. In addition to regular cleaning, leather requires replacement of natural oils; Collagen-based products restore the lost moisture and maintain its natural flexibility. The smell of leather comes from oils evaporating out of the hide. Do not use a vinyl product as a conditioner on leather and above all try to avoid raw silicone oil based products, as the silicone oil will dissolve the leather's natural oils and tend to make the leather sticky, silicone oils also have a very high electrostatic (static) attraction to dust and dirt particle. Schedule: Once every 30-60 days, Arizona, Florida and Texas, especially in summer, for northern climates between 90-120 days, use a leather conditioner to restore these natural oils and keep the leather soft and supple. (Criot's Leather Care, Autoglym Leather Care Cream, Zanio Z10 Leather in a Bottle or Zymol Treat leather cleaners are all good maintenance products) 3. Ultraviolet Radiation (UVR) Protection - you should consider additional sunscreen protection (especially if you own a convertible) leather conditioners typically do not offer any UV screening. *[The best solution is to alternate between a leather conditioner and a, ultra violet radiation (UVR) protection (303™ Aerospace Protectant)] One month use a conditioner to keep the leather healthy and supple. On alternate months mist and wipe the leather with a UV protectant. After application allow 60 minutes for product to cure, then using a 100% cotton cloth lightly buff surface. 4. Leather Upholstery Renovation (Using Leatherique Products): Keeping leather clean is important, but conditioning is the key to preserving the life-flexibility – appearance- and longevity of leather upholstery. JonM * [ Edited 08.17.05 01:25 PM to add 303 Aerospace Protectant] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexKid630 Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 Cleaning – Conditioning - Ultra Violet Radiation protection 1. Cleaning- use a soft horse hair brush (Groit's Leather & Interior Brush) and/or a vacuum to remove any dust, apply a cleaning solution (Water /Woolite® or Dreft® 6:1 ratio or stronger) on to an applicator pad and apply to one area at a time (i.e. a seat back). To remove stubborn dirt or grime gently agitate the surface with a boar's hair cleaning brush (this will not harm the leather) then use a clean, damp Microfiber towel to rinse. Maintenance cleaning- use a cleaning solution (Water /Woolite® or Dreft® 10:1 ratio) on to an applicator pad and apply to one area at a time Stubborn stains- dependent upon the leathers condition or how dirty it is consider using a leather-cleaning product. (Leatherique's Prestine Clean, Groit's Leather Cleaner or Autoglym Leather Cleaner) 2. Conditioning- recommend a preventative maintenance routine three to four times a year, once prior to the winter season to prevent cold temperatures cracking the leather, and once before the heat of the summer to prevent deterioration and shrinkage by heat, which result in continued cracking of leather. In addition to regular cleaning, leather requires replacement of natural oils; Collagen-based products restore the lost moisture and maintain its natural flexibility. The smell of leather comes from oils evaporating out of the hide. Do not use a vinyl product as a conditioner on leather and above all try to avoid raw silicone oil based products, as the silicone oil will dissolve the leather's natural oils and tend to make the leather sticky, silicone oils also have a very high electrostatic (static) attraction to dust and dirt particle. Schedule: Once every 30-60 days, Arizona, Florida and Texas, especially in summer, for northern climates between 90-120 days, use a leather conditioner to restore these natural oils and keep the leather soft and supple. (Criot's Leather Care, Autoglym Leather Care Cream, Zanio Z10 Leather in a Bottle or Zymol Treat leather cleaners are all good maintenance products) 3. Ultraviolet Radiation (UVR) Protection - you should consider additional sunscreen protection (especially if you own a convertible) leather conditioners typically do not offer any UV screening. The best solution is to alternate between a leather conditioner and a UVR Protectant. One month use a conditioner to keep the leather healthy and supple. On alternate months mist and wipe the leather with a UV protectant. After application allow 60 minutes for product to cure, then using a 100% cotton cloth lightly buff surface. 4. Leather Upholstery Renovation (Using Leatherique Products): Keeping leather clean is important, but conditioning is the key to preserving the life-flexibility – appearance- and longevity of leather upholstery. JonM ← Wow thanks! That is excellent advice. I never thought about using sunscreen etc. on it to prevent UV rays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 He's not saying use sunscreen you'd use on your skin, he's saying protective products like 303 Aerospace Protectant have UV sunscreen protection in them. Human sunscreen will damage the leather and vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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