ROBERT THOMASON Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Walmart has a orbital buffer package for $19.95. It is back in the automotive and sporting good section. It is on a display with alot of other Christmas type gifts. The buffer is a 10" 3200 RPM buffer with a 20' extension cord, carrying case,1 application bonnet,1polishing bonnet,1applicator pad,1detail brush. It is not a proffesional brand but it is cheap. Walmart also has a very liberal return policy if it breaks or you dont like it. NO I dont work for Walmart, but thought I would pass this along, I bought one to try. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvcn Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 These things are ok, but they're basically just a slightly easier way of applying wax or sealant. They won't help with swirls or light scratches. And frankly, I found them too much of a pain relative to hand application only. I tried a similar machine two years ago and returned it. Without swirl removal you're doing little to improve the paint surface -- unless your paint is brand new and unmarred by the dealer. For good surface prep -- including swirl and defect removal (or at least minimization), you should really step up to a Porter Cable Dual Action (orbital) polisher. I've seen it as low as $80 from Lowe's although it's more typically around $120-$140 on the web. [You'll also need to spend about $50 for pads] Unlike a rotary, it's safe for anyone to use, and you can switch pads easily. I've had it for only a couple of months, and let me tell you This is HOW the game is played! Some people recommend the even more expensive Cyclo for better swirl removal, though I can't vouch for it personally. But basically I don't think there's any machine below the Porter Cable which is any good yet which is safer than a rotary. So my suggestion is, save up till you can get a PC kit for about $160-$200. Hey, you drive a Lex. Treat it nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBERT THOMASON Posted December 18, 2004 Author Share Posted December 18, 2004 I know about swirls and such but this is just and all around buffer for waxing your car, nothing special. I find for a quick wax and buff they work fine. They are not meant for paint restoration. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvcn Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Here are some pics to show you what can be done with older paint. The first is a comparison. The right side was washed and then cleaned and polished by hand using a paint cleaner and polish. The left side is halfway through the process of being machine polished with a PC in multiple steps using stronger polishes. The second picture shows the end product after washing, polishing, and then waxing. Even then, there are defects that don't show up in pics that I plan to take care of when the weather warms up. I hope this is helpful to somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartkat Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 All of us aren't into restoring a paint job. Those little waxmaster type orbital buffers are just fine for waxing, and with enough bonnets you can apply, remove, and buff wax on a car in short order. They work just fine for what most people need one for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvcn Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I understand. But I personally didn't find the little polisher to do more than I could do by hand. Again, YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I agree, there's really not any advantage when using one of those things to working by hand. Also I'd be concerned about the quality of the bonnets, low grade bonnets with polyester included in the weave can swirl up your paint REAL quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBdenny Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I have one of the cheap buffers that a freind gave me. I am not at all impressed. It doesn't have the power you need and sometimes the bonnent comes loose. I used it a couple of times and went back to hand waxing which with the right prep and wax isn't bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermate Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Save your 20 bucks.......and buy some microfiber towels those things are a joke.......you are better off doing it by hand........ get yourself a Porter Cable 7424........you won't be dissapointed i promise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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