then the question is, is there really such a "quick"way, if you want it done right? In my opinion, you better start with the proper foundation and do it right the first time, then maybe it can be "quick" afterwards. Honestly, i'd rather not take any short cuts- or just send it out to get detailed if you're short on time. I know alot of us don't have the time to do this, but I make the time. Besides, it's fun, and something of an accomplishment once I finish.