Lexus_DK Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 So my buddy has a 2007 Rx350 and has been experiencing a high pitch noise in the engine bay. After diagnosing it, turns out it was the belt tensioner pulley. After going to Advance auto, Autozone, oreillys, lexus dealership and Toyota dealerships; turns out they don't sell the tensioner pulley itself but only the whole Tensioner assembly. But the messed up part is, they can sell the idler pulleys. I'm pretty sure this topic has been covered before. However after taking the tensioner pulley off, I figured you can replace just the bearing inside the pulley and save money. So I go and start pressing the bearing out. Measured it and tried cross referencing it with an aftermarket bearing. The OEM bearing is made by NSK Japan, part number #6203DUL1B. Now, you can not buy it from NSK because they don't sell these bearings to the public. I tried calling NAPA Auto, WorldPac, and IMC auto parts warehouse. No luck. But researched and found a company called SFK makes one similar to the dimensions as to the NSK bearing, SKF Part No. #6203-2RS-JEM There are several websites selling these SKF bearings online or even on eBay. You want to buy 2 bearings because there are two inside the pulley held together by a metal sleeve/bushing. I'm waiting on the bearings to come in so I can press them back into the pulley casing. Here is where I'm at at the moment:
Lexus_DK Posted March 20, 2017 Author Posted March 20, 2017 I advise NOT to use a hammer to remove nor install the bearings in. Use a shop press or a bearing press kit. If you are creative, you can come up with your own press kit with various washer, a long bolt, nut and some spacers. Use some long handle ratchets and/or wrenches. It makes it easier and ensures a proper press out and in of the bearing. Here's what I used:
lenore Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 I know this is going to be taken as shade tree, but I have popped the rubber seal off those bearings on many pulleys and regreased the bearing with a high temp grease and ran them for fine. Did this years ago on a motorhome, and recently on my neighbors Dodge Ram truck. The key is using a high quality, high temp (synthetic) grease. Then pop seal back on.
Lexus_DK Posted March 20, 2017 Author Posted March 20, 2017 12 hours ago, lenore said: I know this is going to be taken as shade tree, but I have popped the rubber seal off those bearings on many pulleys and regreased the bearing with a high temp grease and ran them for fine. Did this years ago on a motorhome, and recently on my neighbors Dodge Ram truck. The key is using a high quality, high temp (synthetic) grease. Then pop seal back on. I thought about doing that. But at this point I didn't want to take the chance of having to replace the bearing later down the road.
Lexus_DK Posted March 20, 2017 Author Posted March 20, 2017 Today I used the shop press to extract the bushing/sleeve holding the two bearings together. You will need this sleeve for the new bearings. Here are some pictures of my setup, I forgot to take pictures of it on the shop press. I used a 30mm and a long 10mm impact socket. But you get the idea: And then once youve pressed the inner sleeve all the way through: Heres the two bearings separated:
lenore Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 I understand. Note when I do this process, if the bearing is still noisy or has lateral movement, I replace it. At my former Company (since retired) I used this process and implemented it and saved hundreds of thousands of dollars in my service industry. I have found that many manufacturers used little or poor quality grease in the bearings causing premature failure. I generally have not experienced this with Japanese made bearings.
lenore Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 I have a shop press, the one thing important in pressing out a bearing or inserting is to only apply pressure on the outside bearing surface. The inner bearing (shaft) side would put undo stress on the bearing and damage it. your first socket which would apply pressure on the outside is the correct pressure point. 1
Lexus_DK Posted March 20, 2017 Author Posted March 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, lenore said: I understand. Note when I do this process, if the bearing is still noisy or has lateral movement, I replace it. At my former Company (since retired) I used this process and implemented it and saved hundreds of thousands of dollars in my service industry. I have found that many manufacturers used little or poor quality grease in the bearings causing premature failure. I generally have not experienced this with Japanese made bearings. There's not much lateral play. I'm actually going to keep and experiment with the old bearings. I popped the two black rubber covers off and noticed it was dry (no grease. I went ahead and packed the bearings with hi-temp grease. I'm going to see if this works.
Lexus_DK Posted March 20, 2017 Author Posted March 20, 2017 So the grease method works. I tried lenore's method and was just curious if it could eliminate the noise. I guess the bearings were still in good shape that it just needed some lube. Even though the new bearings hasn't arrived yet, I'll keep them for backup. But here's me pressing the sleeve back in the old bearings.
lenore Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 You are awesome, I shared that procedure years ago and with a few close friends, and now you posted with fantastic pictures of exactly what I do. Others on this site are going to have heart failure. After resealing I always spin the bearing and check for leakage. I will tell you I have never had a failure of this bearing repair. However if the bearing is shot, than I get rid of it. Watch for grease sling, but generally if you get the lip of the rubber seal in tight you will be fine.
lenore Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 I am just an old ex Navy guy that had to make things work with what you had on hand.
Lexus_DK Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 New bearings came in, here's what they look like.
lenore Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 pull the seal off one of those, see how much grease they use....
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