NY_RX400h_Savanah Posted August 17, 2008 Author Posted August 17, 2008 Look man don't want to offend you, but opinions are opinions and are up for discussion. Taste is very individual thing for every human being-you might like yellow color I might like the red someone else might like blue-no intelligent person will discuss it-this is the way it is and was given for everyone of us. Some people are !Removed! some are straight same way-no discussion will change that. If you want to discuss opinions-fine-but I won't discuss taste with you. Besides yet you haven't brought anything intelligent about cars with third row sit into the discussion. So you say we can discuss opinions but not taste? So I can't discuss the fact that I don't like the styling of the R class but you can hammer the RXh on...basically everything and thats okay? I get it...we can discuss whatever opinions we want...so long as they're yours. You're a trip lol. I think its an ugly vehicle, sorry. I wouldn't reccomend it to any of my friends (line from your first tirade). Dude and it's fine that you don't like the look of the R series-I don't care-it's your taste-you're just proving my point. You can discuss whatever you want-I don't care-I just said I'm not discussing anybody's taste-BTW i didn't hammer RX400h's look-unless you didn't bother to check that. I like the way RX looks and if it has offered 3rd row or there were plans to offer it in the future-answer would be very simple. But Jeezzz-some of you guys can't get over the fact that there are other cars out there-being so narrow minded is really bad. No input whatsoever about 3rd row sit but hammering all other brands-very smart and intelligent. I'm not a MB nor BMW nor Lexus lover-Just because I spent 50k+ on Lexus doesn't mean I have to be loyal to that on brand for the rest of my life and shouldn't say anything that there's bad to say about it. Also is it so hard to understand and distinguish taste from opinion?I like blue-maybe you like red, I like Armani shirts-you might like Cavin Klein-do you really think it's up for discussion???-everything has a different look for every individual and intelligent people respect that. R350 seems to be decent size (and good looking for me)luxury car with third row sit and proper mounting hinges for child seats-that's all-I'm not buying one yet-since still looking for the best option. If you know any other intelligent option please share it and stop telling me how RX400h is the best car on the planet- I own one and know it's good and bad sides (yes there are some). But guess what-I need a third row seat option and besides 2-3 people here no one has brought anything to consideration. MPG won't make up for the space I'll need-can I put it any simpler? PS for Gryphon. Dady's car ;)-please come up with something better. My family lives 4k miles away for the past 12 years so I don't have that luxury.
SW03ES Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Right...you haven't hammered the RX's look because as you just said, you like its look! If you didnt like its look, you would have. You hammered the GX and LX's look. You said the Highlander was ugly. You post all kinds of opinions, many very value judging and negative towards the vehicle and always cry foul when you get the response to those opinions that you've gotten here! This is a Lexus enthusaist's club, people here are going to prefer Lexus vehicles more often than not. Check out a MB or BMW board and you'll find the same thing. Your goal here is not to gather information about vehicles with third rows, if it were you would have said "Lexus isn't planning on bringing a third row to the RX line, what does everyone else think of other similarly sized and priced vehicles with third rows?" not "Since Lexus won't listen to their customers and don't care about us, and the GX and LX are archaic and ugly I'm going to have to buy a real car, what do you think?" Your goal was to get just the response you got here. You started right off rideculing those who don't share your opinions by saying they were lying about their fuel economy experiences. Your threads are all about your opinions, and nobody else's opinions need apply unless they're the same opinion as yours. Thats not how discussions work. If this were a thread about shirts, then the reason why you like Armani shirts and I like Calvin Klein shirts absolutely would be up for discussion. Thats the whole point. Your argument makes no sense, in one word you say tastes aren't discussable, and they you go and discuss your taste and opinions about features, ride, size, etc. You just want to post your incendiary remark, and lay back and cry foul when people disagree with you and say they have no right to, thats just not fair. You have to figure it out, people here don;t care what you buy, they just don't want you denigrating what they buy. Its your money, buy whatever you want. If you don't want to discuss the relative merits of your opinions though, don't post them on a discussion board. Write them in a MS word file and that way you can read your own viewpoints without any dissent.
NY_RX400h_Savanah Posted August 18, 2008 Author Posted August 18, 2008 Right...you haven't hammered the RX's look because as you just said, you like its look! If you didnt like its look, you would have. You hammered the GX and LX's look. You said the Highlander was ugly. You post all kinds of opinions, many very value judging and negative towards the vehicle and always cry foul when you get the response to those opinions that you've gotten here! This is a Lexus enthusaist's club, people here are going to prefer Lexus vehicles more often than not. Check out a MB or BMW board and you'll find the same thing.Your goal here is not to gather information about vehicles with third rows, if it were you would have said "Lexus isn't planning on bringing a third row to the RX line, what does everyone else think of other similarly sized and priced vehicles with third rows?" not "Since Lexus won't listen to their customers and don't care about us, and the GX and LX are archaic and ugly I'm going to have to buy a real car, what do you think?" Your goal was to get just the response you got here. You started right off rideculing those who don't share your opinions by saying they were lying about their fuel economy experiences. Your threads are all about your opinions, and nobody else's opinions need apply unless they're the same opinion as yours. Thats not how discussions work. If this were a thread about shirts, then the reason why you like Armani shirts and I like Calvin Klein shirts absolutely would be up for discussion. Thats the whole point. Your argument makes no sense, in one word you say tastes aren't discussable, and they you go and discuss your taste and opinions about features, ride, size, etc. You just want to post your incendiary remark, and lay back and cry foul when people disagree with you and say they have no right to, thats just not fair. You have to figure it out, people here don;t care what you buy, they just don't want you denigrating what they buy. Its your money, buy whatever you want. If you don't want to discuss the relative merits of your opinions though, don't post them on a discussion board. Write them in a MS word file and that way you can read your own viewpoints without any dissent. Man just listen to yourself and knock yourself on the forehead. Talking to you,trying to explain something and getting any valuable information is like talking to our idiotic president Bush-and will get you nowhere. You don't even know what the taste is-which by the way you wanted to discuss to begin with your first post-not me-"Both vehicles are...excuse my bluntness...hideous...". And???-fine-it's your taste moron-I didn't argue whether you're right or wrong- I said that I like it's shape and don't like new Highlander or LX design. Nothing to discuss or argue about-won't change our tastes no matter what and it's pointless-but you have to have IQ above 90 to understand it. "Hammered"-didn't know that posting anything different than your opinions is hammering. Go to some specialist that will help you deal with your "Lexus" or "Taste" complex. I didn't start with my post to discuss looks of the cars which-again are different for every individual-but availability of the third row. Why do you post in the thread that is very clear what's about and not put anything associated with it-not a single post giving any valuable information. Obviously you have some complexes and take almost every discussion off the main topic to fit your own low level road. Did you even read my first post?? Did you see the question?? And BTW This forum is "Lexusownerclub" for Lexus owners -that includes enthusiasts but doesn't exclude all the others that are "just" the owners and have more or less critical things to say about the car they own.
SW03ES Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Again, you totally miss the point. We don't care if you discuss the negatives of your vehicle. As you say, that also is the point of the forum. Our problem is that you never allow anyone else to post an opinion that is contrary to one of yours without making fun of or otherwise denigrating them. You say I discussed taste first and your right, I don't mind discussing taste, you do! I like to discuss varying tastes with my fellow LOC members. I read your post, did you read mine? All I said was I never cared for the R class and then I said if it fills your needs it fills your needs. I never said you shouldn't buy it, or like it, I just said I didn't like it. For some reason you just couldn't handle that...which I find incredible given the fact that you have posted nothing but unpopular opinions during your time here, and often defended them quite nastily. Look at this here, name calling? Come on, Enjoy your 30 day vacation from the site.
RX400h Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 It's really sad that people have to resort to name calling. To those people, there can be no "discussion", only attacks. I can't blame you one bit for banning the guy, Steve! He needs to take a chill pill! Dave
SW03ES Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 He's already created an account to try and get around the ban...so he won't be back.
Gryphon Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Children should not be issued driver's licenses. Tom
SW03ES Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 We're the ones that need lives? You're the one who refuses to accept that we don't want you here and keeps trying to circumvent our bans and must not have anything better to do. Plenty of forums on the Internet where you'll fit right in, go join one of those. Quit "waisteing" your time on us morons. Your ISPs (all three, RCN, Optimum and your cellular ISP, Cingular) have been notified of your abuse. For the record, for everyone else, the issue is not this guy's opinions, its the manner in which he expresses them and the fact that he doesn't respect any one else's. I dont have an RX, GX, or LX and really don't care whether he likes them or not. As we've seen here...he a jerk...thats what matters.
jrober Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 I suspected you were just another internet troll but gave you the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for confirming it.
RX400h Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Okay, this topic has had its better days.......enough is enough!
SW03ES Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 But remember folks...we're the ones who need lives and he's the one who has so many better things to do. EDIT-RX400h (correctly) removed his posts, but the guy created ANOTHER account to come back and post...after saying twice he was too busy to worry about no longer being able to post here...so people won't think I'm off my rocker. EDIT-Actually he created SEVEN accounts just to show me all his ISP's. Yep, he's definately got a full social calendar.
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