steph1436 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 sorry if this has been asked before but i couldn't find an exact answer in a search.. i am going to put in 2 12" subs and an alpine cd player. do i need to do anything with the stock amp. i am not switching out any of the factory speakers just adding the subs and a seperate amp to them. i don't think that i would have too because the amp will being powering all of the same speakers it was before. but i am just checking thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMan Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Are you doing the work yourself, or having it done at a shop? If the latter, it's their problem. Are you running the stock speakers off the amp built into the HU, or just using the line out from the new HU as opposed to the outputs of the stock stereo? If you're just using the outputs from the HU into the existing factory amp, I'd think it would work. Be careful of levels, however... it may be worth a call to your local car audio shop to ask if they know, or perhaps a phone call to Crutchfield. You may need an adaptor or some sort. If you're running the stock speakers off the new HU's internal amp you'll probably have some extra wiring to do. -KMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted June 14, 2003 Share Posted June 14, 2003 good luck you change the deck and tehn you have to change the amp it is not made for any other signal i guess i didn't make it clear in the es faq post i will have to redo some of it but noone of it works with anything else ,it just doesn't work the speakers cannot take more power than they already have they are low power high efficency so they will pop and pop until tehy are blown sorry but to change an es system you need to change all of it at the same time or just add an amp and subs by itself if you want that is easily possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steph1436 Posted June 14, 2003 Author Share Posted June 14, 2003 hmm what if i just use my new cd player to power the stock speakers and don't use the stock amp at all, i think it is 45x4 so they should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steph1436 Posted June 14, 2003 Author Share Posted June 14, 2003 ok a few more questions, i went to an audio store and they said they have an adapter to use the stock amp still that just came out ( but i am not to sure) would it just be easier to get a new very low watt amp ( how many watts do the stock speakers handle? ) to power the stock speakers ( would they plug in directly?) or would i be able to splice into the wires and run the stock speakers to the cd player -- to sum it all up i am basically asking what is the easiest way to keep the stock speakers?? also i heard it is hard to take out the stock cd player/radio/tape ( i have a cd changer ) if someone could tell me the easiest way to get it out or copy me a link on how to do it so you don't have to type so much ;) thanks - i just can't wait till it is all over and done with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsal Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 hi,you could put a new head unit in the es 300 and still use the factory amp.i bought the adapter from a local stereo shop and its called a toyota amp intergation harness.it has all the power wires plus the speakers.check around and you will find it.maybe sk didnt see it yet but its around.i would just recommend buying new speakers in the front and back rear deck because a new radio will pop the low watt factorys.and i dont think it will take any power away from the new speakers using the old amp because the new radio is a much higher watt then the factory so it will push the new speakers better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsal Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 i also posted about this harness on here before but nobody responed so i guess alot of people dont know about it but it does exist.heres some pictures of it and also the kit you would need.i will try to get the model numbers also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsal Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 heres another pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsal Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 one more of the model number for the harness.woops for got the picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsal Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 here it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsal Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 i hope this helps some of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeiLtYmE Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 if you get the toyota harness... definelty keep the factory amp... the harness .... i have done it too .... i put in a jvc deck....and still using everything else.... the amp will only help in this case... the signal is coming from the deck ... and the amp .. is just a boost in power..... i love what i have .... sounds like a theater.... - Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsal Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 glad to see someone else did what i did.i think the factory amp with a new head unit sounds great with new speakers.how many watt is your jvc unit?i have a alpine tv and dvd player and i think mine is 45 times 4.i also installed a rockford amp and hx2 dvc 10 inch woofer.all together it sounds awsome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsal Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 one more thing.if you are going to use the factory amp with a new head unit dont get some crazy watt speakers for the doors or back deck because like sk said the amp wont push them well.get the lowest watt speakers but something good.i put infinity kappa in mine but the amp dont push them to there full potential but still sounds great.i would recommend pioneer 180 watt max.i think there rated like 35 watt rms witch is pretty close to the factory but still alot better sounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 well i guess i am wrong about the harness and very glad to be ( why the hell don't companies make anything when you actually need them ,like when the car is new) anyway everything else said makes perfect sense the speakers can be changed before the amp but won't sound good until it has a new amp but it still won't sound good till it gets a new head all in all you should replace all speaker wires as well and run them to the trunk with rca to the deck up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsal Posted June 16, 2003 Share Posted June 16, 2003 tell me about it.companys wait for years to pass before coming out with aftermarket stuff.i hate that.i wish they would come up with more stuff for the es though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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