mm4tt Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Hi. This is my first post I've had the car for about 6months and it has been great, but the check engine light keeps coming on and off. Ok so after i bought my 97 es300 a week later it started smoking blue ... iv never had a car do that so i was worried, but i HAD to drive it to my job about a 300mile trip before i got online and figured to check the PCV valve, of course that stopped the smoking immediately. I reset the computer by removing the + terminal on the battery and drove it, light came on again with codes... (P1030 and 0133 .. the usual ones) i bought a new O2 sensor and replaced it on the Firewall side (bank1 sensor 1 right?) so after that it still ran fine i guess light came on, got it scanned again and it kept having "transmission speed sensor code come up".. i replaced the speed sensor today 108.00. :( about 20 minutes of driving later the check engine light came back on .. speed sensor code is gone, now it has (P0125, P0130, P0133) Where should i go from here? I am thinking is the catalytic converter done? or should it be the other O2 sensors. It all seems to be pointing to bank1 sensor1 not even 100% sure where that one is located. Any help or experiences yall have had with this would be good. Thanks. P.S./ the major thing i have noticed it drives great starts right up... but gas mileage went from 420.0 miles per tank to 320.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camlex Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 It all seems to be pointing to bank1 sensor1 not even 100% sure where that one is located. Between Engine and firewall, passenger side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Jetson Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 It sounds like you replaced the correct O2 sensor. And no, do not start looking at the Catalytic converter. Have you read the description of the code? Bascially the code is indicating that the output of the O2 sensor is not going high ocassionally. Since you have allready replaced the 02 sensor you should start looking at the wiring to the sensor. It is very possible that there is a bad connector, or one of the wires have been damaged. Since it is bank 1 sensor, it is very possible that the wire was damage on previous engine work (such as replacing the rear valve cover gasket). It is highly unlikely that the catalytic converter is causing the code. As far as gas mileage, the O2 sensor problems are probably causing this. The computer tries to enrich the mixture in a effort to drive the O2 sensor high. If you have a advanced scanner, you would most likely find that both the short term and long term fuel trims are high. This means that extra fuel is being added in a attempt to drive the signal high. Find the O2 sensor problem, and the trims should return to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm4tt Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Thanks for confirming the location. I checked the wire and it looks good i have continuity on them all. Is there a proper or good way to reset this light? I dont want to have the stereo lock up or anything. But the last couple of times i just unplugged the battery for a short time. Does it need a HARD reset? It sounds like you replaced the correct O2 sensor. And no, do not start looking at the Catalytic converter. Have you read the description of the code? Bascially the code is indicating that the output of the O2 sensor is not going high ocassionally. Since you have allready replaced the 02 sensor you should start looking at the wiring to the sensor. It is very possible that there is a bad connector, or one of the wires have been damaged. Since it is bank 1 sensor, it is very possible that the wire was damage on previous engine work (such as replacing the rear valve cover gasket). It is highly unlikely that the catalytic converter is causing the code.As far as gas mileage, the O2 sensor problems are probably causing this. The computer tries to enrich the mixture in a effort to drive the O2 sensor high. If you have a advanced scanner, you would most likely find that both the short term and long term fuel trims are high. This means that extra fuel is being added in a attempt to drive the signal high. Find the O2 sensor problem, and the trims should return to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Jetson Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Did you ohm the wires back to the ECM? For continuity as well as shorts? I would look very closely at this. Once the wiring and O2 sensor has been eliminated, it would tend to point to the ECM being bad. So of course you will want to make sure before replaceing the ECM. Did you use a generic O2 sensor, or did you use a direct replacement? Of course closely checking all the hoses for splits or cracks is always a good idea. Y Pulling the fuses, or disconnecting the battery works equally as well, (if you do not have a scanner). But the light will go out as soon as the problem is corrected (code will remain in memory for a short while). Do you have access to a advanced scanner, as opposed to a more basic code reader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm4tt Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 I just checked the wire harness connected to the Generic o2 sensor itself, i can't reach the one back to the ECM. I've been going to autozone and getting it checked by them. i think as long as i have older used vehicles im going to go buy a scanner right now :) Did you ohm the wires back to the ECM? For continuity as well as shorts? I would look very closely at this. Once the wiring and O2 sensor has been eliminated, it would tend to point to the ECM being bad. So of course you will want to make sure before replaceing the ECM. Did you use a generic O2 sensor, or did you use a direct replacement? Of course closely checking all the hoses for splits or cracks is always a good idea. Y Pulling the fuses, or disconnecting the battery works equally as well, (if you do not have a scanner). But the light will go out as soon as the problem is corrected (code will remain in memory for a short while). Do you have access to a advanced scanner, as opposed to a more basic code reader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Jetson Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 I suggest ohming the harness back to the ECM, you never know what the repair history is on the car. My personel car had a shorted cable to bank 1 O2 sensor. Apparently someone had replaced the valve cover gaskets, and the harness was installed improperly. The wire ended up shorting out.. As far as scanners, you may want to look at a USB scanner. You can find them in the $50 range, and they can be used on most OBDII vehicles. Which means that it will work on current cars, (although you may want to look at on that is CAN enabled). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm4tt Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 Alright, I borrowed a scanner from autozone, and cleared all the codes, drove it for 2 days and the o2 codes have not come back, THE only code now is P0125, something about coolant flow or something. I have seen the check engine light turn off once while driving, then came back on and stays on. Same code P0125. I popped the hood and saw a FLAT upper radiator hose! I let it cool, took off the cap (which is new) and checked the fluid GREEn and smells fine, it was flushed 2 months ago. Any ideas why it is going flat, just an old hose, or is something else wrong? It just seems like 1 code now i can figure this out at home, really want to avoid taking it somewhere. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm4tt Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 I forgot to mention, I also just noticed a vacuum hose was disconnected, the 1 that goes into the Air Filter Cover. I reconnected it. Reset the code by unplug battery. This car now has 150,000 miles on it. Radiator is new from toyota as of 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Jetson Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 A code P0125 may mean that one or more of the following has happened: * Insufficient warm up time * Low engine coolant level * Leaking or stuck open thermostat * Faulty coolant temperature sensor I copied and pasted the above from another site. So with this in mind first check coolant level. How does the temp gauge on the instrument panel read? Is it close to half way? If so you need to check the ECM coolant temp sensor. The ECM uses a different temp sensor than the instrument panel. So the ecm could be seeing a different temp than what the gauge indicates. And of course if the temp gauge reads cold, your thermostat is most likely stuck open. As far as the hose being collapsed, that would either be a bad rad cap, a bad hose or clogged rad. Since you just replaced the cap and rad, it is most likely the hose. I would recommend replacing all hoses and thermostat when replacing the rad, if finances allow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococat Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Alright, I borrowed a scanner from autozone, and cleared all the codes, drove it for 2 days and the o2 codes have not come back, THE only code now is P0125, something about coolant flow or something. I have seen the check engine light turn off once while driving, then came back on and stays on. Same code P0125. I popped the hood and saw a FLAT upper radiator hose! I let it cool, took off the cap (which is new) and checked the fluid GREEn and smells fine, it was flushed 2 months ago. Any ideas why it is going flat, just an old hose, or is something else wrong? It just seems like 1 code now i can figure this out at home, really want to avoid taking it somewhere. Thanks. In 11/07 @ 131,235 miles I pulled P0125, (2) P1155, & P1150 codes off my car, all were fixed by just adding radiator fluid. I hope you find a simple and easy fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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