shawn9169 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I HAVE A 98 LEXUS ES 300.... WITH 205,000 MILES ON IT ... CAN SOME ONE SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME...... I HAVE WHITE SMOKE COMING FROM TAIL PIPE FROM COLD START. I ALSO HAVE SOME SMOKE COMING FROM MANIFOLD. I CANT FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS. I HAD THE OIL CHANGE AND THE COOLANT FLUSHED. THE IS NO OIL MIXING WITH THE COOLANT... AND IT IS NOT THE HEADS..THE CAR IS NOT OVER HEATING......... SO WHAT IN THE WORLD IS IT!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME OUT PLEASE!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjack133 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Sorry.......white smoke sounds like a cracked head, water getting into the cylinder and turning to steam and out the exhaust, along with a blown head gasket. Is the oil contaminated? Are coolant levels going down? Either of these support blown head/gasket diagnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Jetson Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I HAVE A 98 LEXUS ES 300.... WITH 205,000 MILES ON IT ... CAN SOME ONE SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME...... I HAVE WHITE SMOKE COMING FROM TAIL PIPE FROM COLD START. I ALSO HAVE SOME SMOKE COMING FROM MANIFOLD. I CANT FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS. I HAD THE OIL CHANGE AND THE COOLANT FLUSHED. THE IS NO OIL MIXING WITH THE COOLANT... AND IT IS NOT THE HEADS..THE CAR IS NOT OVER HEATING......... SO WHAT IN THE WORLD IS IT!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME OUT PLEASE!!!!!!!! Loose the cap locks dude!! How much smoke comes out the exh, a little is normally a indication of the valve stem seals (although it is actually blue smoke, but easy to mistake the two). As far as smoke from the manifold, which one? Intake, or one of the exh? Are you loosing any coolant? Or oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexus ES300 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 i have the same problem (98 es 180xxx) its only when the car sits for a long period of time. in the morning there is white smoke out the exh and from the front right of the car(if your siting in the car) i figured it was condensation since its cold but after i leave school its in the 60s and smokes for about 5 min then goes away. not loosing and coolant/oil and its not blue so not tranny fluid. any ideas? Also: if the air/heat is on intake it smells pretty bad in the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Jetson Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Considering that you are not loosing coolant, then most you are correct about condensation. The smoke from under the hood is probably from the rear valve cover leaking (these engines are installed with a significant tilt, with the rear cylinder bank rather low. There is likely a little seapage from the rear valve cover, which is going onto the rear exhaust manifold and being burned. I would first recomend changing the PCV valve, and with this many miles I would also change out the PCV valve groment (located in the valve cover) it costs about 1 dollar, and takes a couple min to change out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn9169 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Sorry.......white smoke sounds like a cracked head, water getting into the cylinder and turning to steam and out the exhaust, along with a blown head gasket. Is the oil contaminated? Are coolant levels going down? Either of these support blown head/gasket diagnosis. THE OIL IS NOT CONTAMINATED .... THE COOLANT LEVEL IS FINE... NOT GOING DOWN. THE CAR DOESNOT OVER HEAT. IT IS ONLY THE WHITE SMOKE FROM THE MANIFOLD AND THE EXHAUST. AND I WAS TOLD IF IT WAS A BLOWN HEAD GASKET THAT THE SMOKE WOULD SMELL LIKE ANTI FREEZE.... BUT THE SMOKE COMING OUT MY CAR SMELLS LIKE EXHAUST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn9169 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Considering that you are not loosing coolant, then most you are correct about condensation. The smoke from under the hood is probably from the rear valve cover leaking (these engines are installed with a significant tilt, with the rear cylinder bank rather low. There is likely a little seapage from the rear valve cover, which is going onto the rear exhaust manifold and being burned. I would first recomend changing the PCV valve, and with this many miles I would also change out the PCV valve groment (located in the valve cover) it costs about 1 dollar, and takes a couple min to change out. OK THANKS SO MUCH.... I WILL TRY THAT AND SEE IF THAT FIXES THE PROBLEM... WILL LET YOU KNOW. THANKS AGAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn9169 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 i have the same problem (98 es 180xxx) its only when the car sits for a long period of time. in the morning there is white smoke out the exh and from the front right of the car(if your siting in the car) i figured it was condensation since its cold but after i leave school its in the 60s and smokes for about 5 min then goes away. not loosing and coolant/oil and its not blue so not tranny fluid. any ideas?Also: if the air/heat is on intake it smells pretty bad in the car YEAH I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WHEN THE HEAT / AIR IS ON IT SMELLS INSIDE THE CAR... THAT IS THE SMOKE FROM THE MANIFOLD... IT SMELLS LIKE SOMETHING IS BURNING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn9169 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Considering that you are not loosing coolant, then most you are correct about condensation. The smoke from under the hood is probably from the rear valve cover leaking (these engines are installed with a significant tilt, with the rear cylinder bank rather low. There is likely a little seapage from the rear valve cover, which is going onto the rear exhaust manifold and being burned. I would first recomend changing the PCV valve, and with this many miles I would also change out the PCV valve groment (located in the valve cover) it costs about 1 dollar, and takes a couple min to change out. OK THANKS .. I WILL TRY THAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn9169 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 I HAVE A 98 LEXUS ES 300.... WITH 205,000 MILES ON IT ... CAN SOME ONE SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME...... I HAVE WHITE SMOKE COMING FROM TAIL PIPE FROM COLD START. I ALSO HAVE SOME SMOKE COMING FROM MANIFOLD. I CANT FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS. I HAD THE OIL CHANGE AND THE COOLANT FLUSHED. THE IS NO OIL MIXING WITH THE COOLANT... AND IT IS NOT THE HEADS..THE CAR IS NOT OVER HEATING......... SO WHAT IN THE WORLD IS IT!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME OUT PLEASE!!!!!!!! Loose the cap locks dude!! How much smoke comes out the exh, a little is normally a indication of the valve stem seals (although it is actually blue smoke, but easy to mistake the two). As far as smoke from the manifold, which one? Intake, or one of the exh? Are you loosing any coolant? Or oil? IM NOT LOOSING ANY COOLANT OR OIL.... IT SMOKES FOR ABOUT 5 MINS FROM A COLD START. THE SMOKE IS WHITE... THE SMOKE FROM THE MANIFOLD IS FROM THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD... NOT THE INTAKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexus ES300 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Alright thanks George_Jetson il change that out today and post my results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexus ES300 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 also does it matter what brand? I was planning going up to auto zone and just buying w.e they have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexus ES300 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 ok changed the pcv valve and it still smokes when getting up to normal temp. I did notice it idles better now with the new pcv. this is around the area its smoking: its below the spark plugs but i cant see where exactly its coming from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Jetson Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Since the PCV helped, it is most likely a leak in the rear valve cover gasket. In order to replace the gasket you will need to remove the intake plenum. This would be a good time to replace the spark plugs, much easier to access the rear bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexus ES300 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 alright i may just wait to change when i change the timing belt/water pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Jetson Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I realize that this may not sound logical, but there would probably very little cost savings if you wait for the timming belt/water pump change. You do not need to remove the valve covers to replace the timming belt water pump. I would suggest getting the valve cover gaskets changed now and then doing the timming belt/water pump later. Much easier to budget the money it you do it separately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexus ES300 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 well i do all the maintenance on my car so im not worried about the price variable and im going to change the timing belt/water pump when i get a long weekend off sometime soon, so i figured if im tearing apart the car then it would be easier to replace them at the same time. Would it be any easier when i do the timing or should i go ahead the replace the gasket? Also i good diy would be great if u can post one on here. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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