Toysrme Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 And this time, it's not from that co** su**e* Sean (soundlzrd, not our sean mcelligott) that took abunch of money from me afew years ago. And they're on group buy through September 10th '06. The guy's already done one successful group buy on ToyotaNation, and has started another. Current Group Buy Original thread You want the correct sway bar<s> for your car, AND new end-links, AND the bushings (They're polyuerethane). There is no single handling upgrade that you can do that will increase the handling of the car. There also isn't a cheaper upgrade you can do for the suspension. Obviously... We have Camry suspensions, so you want the corrisponding generation Camry parts. (Gen 3 Camry's come with a large front sway bar. Whiteline says they're big enough factory, so they just make rear sway bars for us rollin gen3's.) Anywho... Just a head's up. It's fairly rare to find Whiteline stuff in the USA, it's a very on/off basis. I love my whiteline rear sway bar... Wouldn't live without it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraMan Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Question: I have a 96 ES300, so the rear bar would be the 18mm BTR36@$112 (plus shipping). Like other suspension companies, do they include the correct swaybar bushings? If not, I'm looking and didn't see them, just the SPF-2997 ones for the stock chassis bar. No mention of end links at all. :chairshot: I am very thankful our buddies in ToyoNation are doing this ... contactacted the US distributor last month with a negative reply to supplying them to me. Maybe I referenced the Lex and not Toyo parts, but they said 'not available' nonetheless. Great news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfather18 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Whats the benefit to the Whiteline products? Is it better than what I have on now? What difference would I notice from there products? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex pilot Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 hey toys, If the gen the 3 camry front bar is bigger than the eairlier versions, what are the odds a 2003 bar will fit a 97 es300? ever tried it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toysrme Posted August 19, 2006 Author Share Posted August 19, 2006 I've never heard of anybody doing it either way. (gen 3 or gen 5 to a gen 4). If you wanna pick one up from like a junkyard, go for it! Ya, the gen3 front way bars are huge. They downsized them on the gen4's. :\ SupraMan IDK about end links. They guy I bought mine from years ago included some poly bushings & replacement end-links. (Which is probably why it cost $150-170, instead of $120 to get a bar) I see where he is listing the poly bushings for them seperately from superpro. I would get on toyotanation, and ask them. godfather18, larger anti-sway bars will keep the car from leaning as much during corners. They will also effectively loosen the grip at that end of the car. I.E. All factory FWD cars are set to understeer. As in you go turning hard to the limit of traction, the front tires loose grip & you quit turning. You slide forward in a straight line. A larger rear sway bar will not only make the car feel more solid, quicker in transitioning, and keep the car from leaning as badly while cornering. It will lessen the grip at the back of the car, adding more to the front. This creates a more neutral handling car that will go farther without loosing grip, and if you go past the traction limits, you may actually spin the car out. Which is alot more fun anyway. Basically... Without making the suspension any stiffer, you are adding dynamic spring rates to each wheel. The car feels the same driving around, until you go zipping throguh some corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleycoleman1906 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 i just had my sway bar links replaced at firestone, they charged me 154 for the stabilizer bar control links. it still makes noise when i go over bumps! is this normal, did they jack me again?? they say the stabilizer bar control links were bad, and moving. Please elaborate for me please!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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