Thanks, and I'm afraid you are right. I am by no means a computor guru. I build all my own computors myself for my company. We have 16 total. I understand all the hardware, I am an electronics technician. But when it comes to reconfiguring the software, that's way beyond my comfort zone. The 5.1/7.1 - 8.1 gives me an idea. maybe if I go up one version at a time and see what happens. Will just have to get the two loading.kwi's I don't have. Since I own the 5.1 & 8.1 and that what I want to end up with, that might be worth a try. I've read here where some have locked up their system, but wouldn't rebooting (killing power) and reload with a factory disc at least get it back working. Or am I playing around in a place I may be sorry I have ventured. I wish I knew more about the programing. But the last time I did any programing was when I was just starting out in instrumentation back in the 70's. And that was ladder logic then and that a place I don't care to go back to. That was old school programing. I'm showing my age here.
Thanks for the help and advice. And I'm still open for any other ideas. Since I have the lockpick installed, that gives me full access to my bluetooth phone functions and DVD. But loose the destination once I go above the 5.1, but I keep the phone working. So the only other thing I need is access to the destinations. So I may just have to consider the wire hack on the speed wire to the nav unit. Was hoping to not have to do that one because of the possible warranty issue.