F4DPhan Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Steve and Everyone in the Mid-Atlantic (where salt & sand reign supreme Jan-Mar), Ok, so I'm sick and tired of my BLACK 2005 IS appearing gray-brown for the last 2-3 weeks, due to all of the salt and sand on the roads here in the DC area..... ....so, my strategy is: - 'Touch-less car wash' at one of those gas-station car washes; this, rather than the pay-to-scrub self washes, due to the below freezing temperatures (yeah, I know Steve, got to 50 today!).... - take car home, treat with Optima No Rinse, followed by... - Poor Boy's Spray and Wipe - Followed by Sonus/Klasses Acrylic spray.... My rationalization for the two-step no-rinse is that: - the ONR works great after the 'touch-less' car wash misses (and there is no substiture for rag-on-car for getting the dirt off) the deeper and courser dirt and debris. - the Poor Boys gets out any last fine dirt/debris & streaks, and seems to have a little moisturizer that adds to the finish (seems to add a small shine to the car...) and then add a final coat of moisterizer and protectant with the acrylic spray..... So, don't know how flawed my approach is, but would appreciate feedback, comments and suggestions to preserve a black finish in a harsh, salt & sand ladent winter enviroment.... ...of course, I'm planning on a long spring cleaning of the finish, including clay, deep cleaning (preceaded by the purchase of a Cable Porter!), etc.... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I think you're being a little overzealous with your three pronged approach. The ONR is sufficient to clean the car after the touchless, as is the spray and wipe probably. I use ONR with Wax as U Dry as I'm drying. No need to follow ONR with S&W and then a QD. Go straight from ONR to a QD if you want. Thats pretty much all you can do. The roads are so sloppy I haven't even tried. I did run the car through the touchless wash a couple days ago which helped a lot, but it looks just like it did again from just the wet roads. If I had a silver car at this point, I'd have a detailer wash it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mburnickas Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I think you're being a little overzealous with your three pronged approach. The ONR is sufficient to clean the car after the touchless, as is the spray and wipe probably. I use ONR with Wax as U Dry as I'm drying. No need to follow ONR with S&W and then a QD. Go straight from ONR to a QD if you want.Thats pretty much all you can do. The roads are so sloppy I haven't even tried. I did run the car through the touchless wash a couple days ago which helped a lot, but it looks just like it did again from just the wet roads. If I had a silver car at this point, I'd have a detailer wash it for me. I agree. I have two 32 oz bottles of Poorboys S&W and will never see them again on my car. I do what you do, wash with ONR, then ClearKote quickshine and then new and impoved will be Zaino Clear Seal! Have to try it. PS: I trust ONR more then S&W, big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 It depends, S&W works but I would never use it unless the car has been thoroughly pre-cleaned in something like a touchless wash. I used to use it routinely in that situation and never had any marring. Anyways it doesn't take any more time to mix up a batch of ONR than it does to S&W the car. So, might as well just ONR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mburnickas Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 It depends, S&W works but I would never use it unless the car has been thoroughly pre-cleaned in something like a touchless wash. I used to use it routinely in that situation and never had any marring. Anyways it doesn't take any more time to mix up a batch of ONR than it does to S&W the car. So, might as well just ONR. True S&W does work but ONR is cheaper, leaves a slicker and more shinning surface and S&W will marr long before ONR will. I think for me the major factor is PB high prices.PB S&W is like $12 per 32 or $31 for a gallon. ONR is $30 for a gallon. I know that ONR will get at least 120 washes for the gallon. Now, I am only guessing here but based on my use of it, S&W you would be lucky to get 60 washes for a gallon. I agree with you that I would never use it on a non-prewashed car. Problem is that is the foundation of this product. For me, it goes back to the post above. If I am going to pay to pre-clean the car, just use ONR and save time and money. Did I mention a slicker and more shine surface! :) I guess I am basised now since I dislike PB S&W, EXP and nattys since I tried it. Durability, longevity etc is poor. I love there wheelcleaner for bad wheels but the 3 items above plus there new leather stuff is on my "bad" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4DPhan Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 Thanks guys; guess I'll tone it down a bit with the 'triple' cleaning until spring... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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