Ok, thanks for the info and leads. I'll check everything out. I was tending toward getting them from the dealer anyway, and now that I think about it, it was more like $125 than $185. I was only asking for the two front mats, and can't remember if I had to buy the whole set or not. Anyhow, more like $125 was quoted, but I can't tell you for sure if that is for two or four. From day one I've followed the dealership recommendations for maintenance, and no, I'm not a DIY. I know there are some girls who are into this (carchicks.com), but I'm really not one of them. I just want to take care of the car so I don't get stuck in LA freeway traffic Fear drives me! :o . Having said that, I've had to learn quite a bit just to know what the mechanics are talking about, because, as I said, the car is now 10 years old and I can expect some things to start happening. So far, knock on the dashboard, it's been almost trouble free. I think the most extensive repair I had was replacing the rear bushings(??). Then, recently, the valve cover gasket seal. Other than that, it's been typical maintenance, by Lexus trained mechanics. Learning stuff about the car (the web is awesome) has actually been kind of interesting! If something goes wrong, you turn into an "Auto Detective" ( Jim Carrey would be great in that role!!) and in the process pick up lots of other info. I now see why guys like to do this stuff, set up shops, etc. Because it's fun! Anyhow, I have one or two more questions which I'll put in another post. Thanks again.