Backyard Special

ouch now how the hell did that happen..... :chairshot: The brakes are different......I'll just leave it at that

I also feel what others are feeling. Coming to a stop from a coast I need to smash the breaks to the floor to get it to stop. The es350's breaking system is truly a disappointment. This is the first entry level luxury car I've ever driven and its leaving me with a bad taste in my mouth. My previous v-6 accord and integra R had breaks that were FAR easier to modulate. I also test drove the G35 sedan and IS350. Both these car had breaks that were easy to modulate and had almost no "getting used to" Basically too many damn computers trying to predict what kind of breaking is optimal for me.

Good thing your doing research before you buy the car unlike me. Are you aware of the trans problem? Bottom line FWD car are built for economy nothing more. FWD with a decent amount of power like the es350 is always going to have torque steer if you punch it. SW03ES said it best. When are you going to be punching the gas and turning at 140Km? The ES350 is a cruiser car at best it isn't a performance car.