quick93hb Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Hello. I know this may be a "newbie" question, but one doesn't learn by not asking questions. Anyways, I just sold my car and I'm in the market for an SC300 5speed. I probably can't afford anything newer then a 95. As for swapping the motor, from what I've heard and what friends have told me, I should go with a 1JZGET. Ok I know this is a 2.5 motor that comes in the soarers in japan right? single turbo? Also, was the the motor that came in the older supras? (1990?) What costs (excluding labor) am I looking at if I wanted to do this swap and are the transmissions the same? Sorry for all the questions. Ask me anything bout a honda and i'll tell you. Also, did all year SC300 come 5speed? Do any have black leather interior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick93hb Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 no one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grnstreak Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 The SC300's 5spd was only an option til 1997.. then they discontinued it. Some have black leather... but those are pretty rare. Don't Quote me but I'm pretty sure the 1JZ never came with single turbo, They came twin turbo from the factory. The 1JZ-GTE is a pretty good swap to do to these cars but the problem comes about when you try to source parts. Because the 1JZ was never offered here, parts are difficult to come about. The w58 tranny found on the 5 spds should work with the 1JZ with no problem... My suggestion would be to do the same swap i'm gonna do to mine... Swap in a MKIV supra 2JZ-GTE, the V160 (6spd) tranny, a custom driveshaft and the Supra rearend. These parts might be harder to find, and you have to do a little custom work on your wiring harness, but in the end its worth it. The bare minimum to do a swap on this car would only consist of a MKIV harness, ECU, Engine, and some very small minor things everything else would just line up. A good used 2JZ can run anywhere from 2500 - 3500 dollars, the Harness can be from $300-600, and the ECU would be around 500. So total without labor, figuring in minor things would be around 5-6kish for a bare minimum swap. The 2JZ-GTE is a proven platform to work with here... people are still making massive hp with these engines, the engine is bascially limitless... but it all depends on your goals, and what you want to do. The stock 2JZ-GE can be turbo'd also for some decent power, its a great alternative. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerozero Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Can't you rebuild the factory 2JZ-GE to be just as strong or stronger than a factory 2JZ-GTE? Lower the compression, use all forged or billet internals, etc. I was going to do this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grnstreak Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 The 2JZ-GE is a pretty potent platform... but stronger than the GTE... i doubt it. The GE can be as strong, but you need to dump a lot of money in, to pull the kind of hp the GTE does with very minor mods. If your hp goals are for 300-500ish hp, I would turbo a GE, anything beyond that, I would swap in the GTE with the V160. The W58 in our sc's can't handle massive amounts of power... I've heard they can only take up to 350hp reliably... It HAS handled much more hp than that, but the question would be how long can it handle it? BUT, The highest hp i've heard of on the GE is somewhere in the 900's so anything is possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick93hb Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 thanks I appreciate the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick93hb Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 So the 2JZGTE from a supra is a direct bolt in? besides the custom driveshaft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grnstreak Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Yup plops right into our motor mounts... When I get ready to do my car I'm not gonna be concerned with the motor though... I've just got a lot of soldering to do lol. Heres a site from a guy thats done it before.. you can purchase his manual, but hey.. a step by guide for wiring harness......sweet, you really can't beat that. http://www.fly-hawaii.com/lexustt/ good luck with it... and happy boosting :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc300ccret Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Yup plops right into our motor mounts... When I get ready to do my car I'm not gonna be concerned with the motor though... I've just got a lot of soldering to do lol. Heres a site from a guy thats done it before.. you can purchase his manual, but hey.. a step by guide for wiring harness......sweet, you really can't beat that. http://www.fly-hawaii.com/lexustt/ good luck with it... and happy boosting :D ← As far as the GE vs. GTE debate. The motors are a bit different in that the GTE has oil squirters under the pistons and the GE block doesn't. Most applications don't matter,but if your going to get silly then GTE is the way to go. Also the head is different. Now I did the harness in my car myself. Phils guide is good up until a '95. After that some of the stuff is different enough not to work. Mike 97SC300TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ponkte Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 The Red 94 SC300 came with a black interior. A guy in my area has one with a 5 speed. I don't think it's for sale though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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