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Asking price: $22,000

2007 Lexus ES 350 Ultra Luxury

1-owner, clean carfax, good service records

70,000 miles. No CPO.

Is this a fair price? How much can I go lower? KBB's seems to be worthless lately.

Wow, I'm sorry to learn that...$34k for a 2008 UL was indeed a very good price considering the miles...no wonder it didn't last long....that makes it like 'new'. Are you looking to get an 09?, because it may be a little hard, but not impossible to find one. I think for 09 Lexus cut back on production and I think the UL was impacted because they probably were not selling that many, so for 09 you can only buy one by special order, which could take out any savings if you were buying it on the lot. If you special order don't expect invoice, no way, you will pay close to MSRP, if not a little more. I did a quick search on Autotrader and I only saw a 08 w/27K miles for 40K, and another 08 for $39,995 (40) w/18k miles. So, for 2008 expect to pay around 37K, maybe a little less depending on the dealer and miles on the vehicle. If want new one then check locally first, there 'may' be few 09 UL out there. Let me know if need some help, I got a good deal on a 09 Level III (level III is close to the UL expect for the Mark Levinson, Roof and 10 spoke graphite wheels) in ATL. There may be a few UL's in the ATL area although that's just a hunch. .... :D

To be honest with you, the only thing I like about ULTRA Luxury is the panoramic roof (it makes the vehicle stand out especially with starfire pearl or golden almond exterior), I don't care much about Mark Levison or the 10 spoke wheels.

I checked my local dealer and they said the have 09 ULTRA starfire pearl exterior in stock and golden almond being built, which kind of suprised me since I thought they are low in stock. Still even if I get to invoice of 40K, I still think it's a lot of an ES.

I'm thinking of buying a used one, and this one I found:

2007 CPO ULTRA LUXURY, Golden Almond Exterior

60,000 miles

Price Ask: $25,995

CPO: 3 years or 100,000 miles

Was a private lease before

Seems like a fair deal? Any room for negociation? I'm asking them to lower to $23,000. The other problem is it's 1,500 miles away for where I live, so I'm looking at paying for an additional of $1,000 for delivery. (unless I fly one way there and drive it back, which cost about $400 including air fair and gas, idk).

I got an offer for a used 2008 ES 350 Ultra Luxury Package (not CPO) with 5000 miles for $34,700 (MSRP $44,700).

Is this a fair deal? Obviously, this is not a CPO, but the carfax is clean and I haven't negociate anything yet. How much should I negociate? Maybe $32 or $33K? Since buying a new car now has so many benefit such as you can deduct the tax on your 2009 income tax? Advise?

*Note: I'm unsure if this is the Ultra Luxury Package since the salesman is not from a Lexus dealership so he might not knowledgable about ES' trims (he didn't mention anything about Ultra Luxury) . But the vehicle does include Mark Levison and Panoramic roof. Is it possible to get those two options without the Ultra?

It is not possible to get a Panoramic Roof and Mark Levinson sound system w/o the UL trim. However, having 'said' that check for everything else, perforated leather seats, rear sun shade, navigation system, with back-up camera, wood trim steering wheel, HID/AFS, 10 spoke graphite wheels. If these check off then you indeed had the UL package. For an 08 this is great price for a UL package considering the miles. I'm still somewhat concerned that it's not Lexus certified, but you still have quite a bit of warranty left, so that's not a show stopper. Clean CarFax, wow, this car was hardly driven. Was it a loaner vehicle? I think $34K would be really good price, but hey, if you can get the price down lower, then go for it!!.....

Ahh, they just sold it today (sale pending since Saturday). I never thought of getting the ULTRA package, but now after seeing it in person, I felt in love with it. If I get a brand new one, how much should I aim for MSPR 44K, Invoice 40K.

I got an offer for a used 2008 ES 350 Ultra Luxury Package (not CPO) with 5000 miles for $34,700 (MSRP $44,700).

Is this a fair deal? Obviously, this is not a CPO, but the carfax is clean and I haven't negociate anything yet. How much should I negociate? Maybe $32 or $33K? Since buying a new car now has so many benefit such as you can deduct the tax on your 2009 income tax? Advise?

*Note: I'm unsure if this is the Ultra Luxury Package since the salesman is not from a Lexus dealership so he might not knowledgable about ES' trims (he didn't mention anything about Ultra Luxury) . But the vehicle does include Mark Levison and Panoramic roof. Is it possible to get those two options without the Ultra?

Bond8 and D&L Lexus, those are great prices you got there. Do you know if they would go down to invoice if no Nav package is choosen? Would you please message me the dealer you got it from and the sales person? Thanks.

i bought a white rx350 2010 with gps, vented seat and 19" rims for 48k out the door.

That's like at MSRP, did you attempted to get any discount or it is impossible to do so now? AWD or FWD?

Just curious how much you new 2010 RX 350 owners got for your car with Premium Package? How much with the Navigation Package? Is it still possible to get to the invoice now with this new model? I'm seeing the 2010 model Navigation Package is only about 2K more than the Premium Package. Perhaps it's a better deal to upgrade to Nav than previous 09 models where it was about 4K different.

Much appreciated.

I am looking for a 07-08 GS350.

I bid on a 2008 GS350 a week ago and I must have been really low since the dealer never responded to my offer! I have read the different forum responses on how good or bad a deal may have been. Does anyone think that I can purchase a 08 GS350 w/o navigation for $32-33k? How about an 07 GS350 for $28ish?

Any response or input would be awesome.

I think it would be hard for you to find a GS w/o navigation. There are some out there, but like the LS, most of these vehicles are equipped with a navigation package. To answer your question about price, you need to provide more info (e.i. mileage, color)

I know Lexus doesn't required full synthetic oil for the RX line up, but do any of you actually use full synthetic oil here? If so, what benefit have you seen? Do you do it at home, bring the oil to the dealer, or have the dealer use their full synthetic oil?

Does anyone know when will the 2010 RX 450h be available in dealership? I want to test drive it when I drop off my 400h for maintenance :-). I visited the Lexus website, and I don't think we can build the 450h or 250h yet.

Thanks all for all the advice! I commute 20 miles a day round trip to work and put in about 70 miles over the weekend, no short trips, so I think that should be long enough for the oil to warm up? I certainly don't want to do anything to jeopardize my warranty, but again, Lexus dealership charged me $46.85 just for an oil change last time, so I was wondering if it's worth it to go back there and have the service done before the 5000 miles interval hits. So you are saying we can bring our Lexus to say a Toyota dealership and have the 5000 miles service done, as long as we keep the service record, that would still count towards the fulfillment for our warranty?

As for the full synthetic oil, I know Lexus currently uses blended oil for RXs, do you think using full synthetic oil will extend the interval longer? I once talked to a service advisor and he told me that full synthetic oil doesn't mean longer interval oil change because the filter would still need to be changed every 6 months.

Do any of you here really follow Lexus' 6-month/5000 miles maintenance schedule? I was recently out of the country for vacation for 6 weeks, so I hadn't put too much mileage on my car yet. It's been 7 months now since I last had service, and I only put on 3500 miles since then. Do you think it's necessary to have the service now since it's over 6 months or I should wait until the car hit 5000-mile interval?

Btw, I'm thinking of doing the 15K maintenance, does it worth it? Does it include oil change and tires rotation in this 15K maintenance as well? How much? Anyone with experience, please share.

Thanks.

Beautiful car, i love the combination of black exterior and tan interior. Do you mind sharing how much you got that for?

Any purchases yet? I am in the market and curious what others are paying? Hopefully this is ok to ask as I am new to the forum. By the way, I am located in Los Angeles.

Just bought 2010 RX350 AWD

Starfire Pearl w/ Gray Leather

- HDD Navigation

- Premium Package

- Comfort Package

- Wood- and leather-trimmed steering wheel and shift knob

- Towing Prep Package

- 12-speaker Premium Audio System

Sticker Price = $46,750

Price Paid = $44,000

Seems like not much discount there. Probably because it's still a hot cake (even in this economy). How is it handling so far? what's the MPG?

I thought they only thinking about it, it's not official yet. Plus, even if they are going with the plan, the V6 LS is going to be just in Asia Pacific, and maybe in Europe...but not North America.

I got an invitation to attend on Feb. 24th at my local Lexus dealer for 2010 RX arrival...they said it's gonna have some live music and refreshments...other than that...I have never attended a Lexus party before. And no, this is only for the 2010 RX350, the Hybrid 450h will be showcased around April.

The $4.00+/gallon gas prices are still fresh in most people's minds and few are foolish enough to think that $2.00/gallon prices are here to stay. That being the case, I am not surprised that RX350s, with their 16-18 average MPG are selling at tremendous discounts.

I agree, the market has yet to go back up, oil demand drops, inventory increases, cruel is still at $42 a barrel, and gasoline had already creep up in the last few weeks in anticipate of the spring, unbelievable! I don't think we will see $4 (average) in 2009 *knock on woods*, but $3 is a definite and $4 again in 2010. Still, I'm so glad that all of us 400h owner having the distinction of owning a hybrid rarity. I always get a kick when I park my car next to a 350 and the owner got off his car and start staring at my car wondering what the 400h means (sorry, but a lot of people are not aware of hybrids, heck...some of them I know were just buying a base 350 just to say they owning a Lexus)

What you're experiencing is that as hard hit as the new car market is, the used high end market is worse. People are not buying luxury cars, and they aren't buying used luxury cars either. If the dealer has a car on their lot for $40k that is similar to yours, I think $35.5k is a very reasonable price. What do you think they will sell that $40k RX for? $36k? Maybe.

If they let you walk away they couldn't do the deal.

You're right, their '08 400h with 9K will probably sell between $36-37K...about $4-5K off asking price. But the reason why I got such an "ok" deal because I'm planning to buy an LS, so they probably thought they would get something back for the LS from me.

Btw, I see that they still have ocean of RX350s on their lot, wonder why on the RX350 board, people get outrageous deals: 09' Pebble Peach with Nav for $35.5K. WOW

OK, I'm really envy with all of you who got these OUTRAGEOUS deals now :P . When I purchase my RX400h in November 2007, deals were nowhere near this. Are these deals only for the RX line up? Anyone has any luck with ES or LS with this steep discount?

Keep us informed! I would hope you could get $35-$37K at Lexus in trade and $38-$40K selling on your own. A dealer other than Lexus I would expect probably $31-33K :( . I also have an '08 400h, (but 2wd) and premium pkg and love the car, but not the payment (starting to think it is more car than I need), so I am curious as to what you get for yours.

By the way, my local dealer has this GS 450h Hybrid that may or may not interest you:

http://www.eskridgelexus.com/VehicleDetails/329722663

Per your request, here is the update:

Long story short, I've decided to keep my '08 RX400h for another year or two and sell it dirt cheap to my in-law (I think they wanted this vehicle but their nest egg got beaten badly so they hold off on purchasing a new car).

Here is the story: I went to the dealer to get the appraisal, and they offered me $35,500 with 15K on it. I knew dealer trade-ins are usually a rip off, but this is about $2K below the trade-in value given by KBB. I walked away and checked out on auto-trader, unfortunately in my area only 2006 RX400h were sold, not a single '08 was sold by individual seller. So I call them back and ask for a trade-in of $38,500 (average between KBB trade in of $37,300 and private party of $39,500). They agreed to give me a price of $37.700 (which I think it's reasonable consider they have another '08 RX400h in stock with 9,000 miles on it and put it up for $40,900). A week later I came back for a test drive of the LS, and they retracted the offer, staying that Lexus is currently giving more cash incentive rebates for '08 models, and they reduced the offer to $35,650. After endless conversations, I walked away embracing my 400h knowing that I will have her for another year or two and not have to take a $10K hit on depreciation.

By the way, anyone knows anybody or have they recently purchased a new or used 400h? How much did you pay for? I saw on the RX350 board, and some of them got deals as great as $36,000 for '09 RX350 with Nav. I guess the currently RX models got hit pretty hard knowing that the redesigned will coming out in a month. I didn't see this steep drop in the LS or the ES line up. Just the RX.

I just went in late Friday (about 7pm, they are close at 7:30) to Sterling MCCall Lexus (South 59). I live about few miles away. They offered me 40,000 on the same car I got and I said if they can do 36,000, I'd deal tonight. He spent few minutes with his manager and came back with 36,500. I said that's it and about to walk out. He told me to wait and talk to his manager again. He came back with the deal. They offered me 6.99 APR on financing but I didn't agree. I deposited $1,000 to hold the car and went home, did some research and got the 5.5% with Capital One. Talked to them in the morning and they matched the rate. Picked it up few hours after that. So far very happy with it. The funny thing is I don't know if I can even get a better deal since I only gave one number (36,000) :)

If anyone wants to know the sales person, pm me.

Wow, that was a great deal you got there, what was the invoice for your vehicle? I guess the bad economy + incoming redesigned RX models = deep discount. I hope you will keep your car for a long time because it's already dropped like a rock in value as we speak and even more in February where the new 2010 coming out. My RX400h has lot its value in almost 3K from late December 08 to now. ENJOY your new ride!

How do we register as owner on Lexus website? Aren't we automatic registered when we purchased the vehicle? I registered with my VIN and this is the error message I got, "Incoming VIN is not a valid TMS VIN. The VIN must be in CCDB. Please enter a valid TMS VIN

We're sorry, your request cannot be completed at this time. Please try again later." Any idea?

Colorado still had a tax credit through 2008 and it did not require the car be new ...

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/progs/view...gi?tech/EV/CO/0

Great info! Do you know what other states besides Colorado who is still during this tax credit? Btw, when reading this, it's still a little bit unclear on whether they allowed used vehicles or new vehicles only. Perhaps someone who live in CO can confirm this?

"HEVs also qualify for this incentive. This credit is only available in the year during which the vehicle was purchased or converted, and a vehicle may only qualify for this credit one time"

For the most part, I use midgrade, although during the colder Winter days (55-65 degrees F), I can get away with using regular gas. If I travel to a very hot-climate area, like Las Vegas in the Summer, premium fuel is a must.

RX400h, so you are saying colder temp helps reduce engine knocking, therefore, premium may not required? I'm currently still using premium, and I'm in MN, so it's super cold with temp around 15-25F this week. I can definitely use mid-grade as some gas stations here priced mid-grade and regular the same. I don't care much about the $.20 different between premium and regular, but if I can save additional pennies, why not? Can you tell me where you get this info from?

Katzjamr, Thanks for correcting me about getting credit for the first 60,000 hybrid vehicles.

For more info, look at this URL: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/!Removed!/tax_hybrid.shtml. It will explain clearly for you. You will also be able to check on hybrid credit from other manufactures beside Toyota/Lexus.

Based from what I read. The first 60,000 hybrids get 100% credit from the government. After that, only 50% will be given credit for the next 6 months, then only 25% (of the original 100%) will be given in month 7-12. And then no more.

And YES. Only new vehicle can get credit. Not used one.

Additional Requirements

The following requirements must be met to claim the credit:

* The original use of the vehicle commences with the taxpayer.

* The vehicle is acquired for use or lease by the taxpayer, and not for resale. (The credit is only available to the original purchaser of a new, qualifying vehicle. If a qualifying vehicle is leased to a consumer, the leasing company may claim the credit.)

* The vehicle is used mostly in the United States.

* The vehicle must be placed in service by the taxpayer after December 31, 2005 and must be purchased on or before December 31, 2010.

o Click here for more about the credit phase-out and ending date.

o Click here for information on tax deductions for hybrids placed into service before January 1, 2006.