Just bought a used 07 LS460L, love the car, hate the non-functional NAV. My wife drives a 05 Acura RL and the Lexus is frustrating in comparison. Add my name to the list and I appreciate the forum and the exchange of ideas. Hey, I ride motorcycles and I support the no helmet laws, but that does not mean I ride without one. With some of the money I saved buying used, I'll invest in one of the aftermarket solutions to this "cover your !Removed!" annoyance.