We had an interesting experience today trying to purchase a RX350 in Atlanta. We had been working with a specific dealer for about 2 weeks and when we found they would be open today (Sunday), we decided to go back to actually purchase the automobile. Now we had done our homework both on the net, at these forums, and by getting quotes with a number of Lexus dealers that are pretty close to us. I was even willing to pay a little more at this particular dealership because we had test driven the car there and they had the most time invested with us. However, when we went to close the deal, it was just like the old days buying a car from Ford or Chevrolet.
First of all, the car that they brought in was supposed to be exactly the same but was $176 less expensive based on MSRP. The sales rep (sorry, Sales and Leasing Consultant) told me not to worry because the car was equipped exactly the same but was brought into inventory before a price increase. She could not tell me when that price increase occurred but did say that they happen all the time. No problem - I just wanted to see the document indicating when the car was delivered to the dealer. I was told somewhat testily that was unnecessary and that the car was exactly the same as what I had driven earlier. I looked at my notes and quickly determined that the $176 was also the cost of the C1 and WL options (Cargo Net/Wheel Locks). When I pointed this out to the Sales Consultant, she told me that the car was equipped the same and that this strange $176 was just a coincidence. So we look at the car - no cargo mats or wheel locks. I point out a wheel lock in the showrooom to the Sales Consultant and told her that the car I looked at did not have any of those. She stomps off to look at the car and then comes back and admits that they are not on the car. She still sticks to the story about the price increase. When she finally tells me when the car came into inventory (20-December - 10 days ago), she finally admits she was not correct. Despite this, we try to discuss price and she tells me that the price they gave is not negotiable. When I point out that I have lower quotes from other dealers in the area for similarly equipped autos, she tells me that if I don't want to pay that price, they will sell it tomorrow for $500 more. I asked another question and she tells me that we are done. She then tells me that I have been rude since I walked in that day and that we are done talking. Hmmm, she lies to me concerning equipment on the auto, I ask for documentation to figure it out and that is considered rude?! Now I don't really care about $176. The issue to me is the fact that the Sales Consultant assumed the car was sold to us before we started, could not answer our questions adequately, refused to check things out when we asked her to, and then got upset when we pointed out the discrepancies in what we were being told. We needed to be sold on this car and this dealership. We were clearly sold on the car - we planned to drive it home today. All it would have taken from the dealership was a bit of honesty.
Before leaving the showroom (in my old 4Runner), I talked to the Sales Manager. Of course, the Sales Consultant gets to prep him first with her side of the story. I did get a lot of time with him, which I appreciate and I asked that the Sales Consultant be there as well - I operate with a "no secrets" policy. In discussions with the Sales Manager, he was somewhat understanding and he was willing to throw in the C1 and WL options for the lower price as well as an additional service at 15k. We had a deal...until he told me that unless I was 100% satisfied (meaning that I could give them good ratings on the Lexus Satisfaction Survey) that he really didn't want me to buy the car at that dealership. I told him I didn't think I could do that based on being lied to and being called rude by the Sales Consultant when she was the one that was being misleading (and that is being charitable). So despite the fact that I was paying cash, he said he didn't want my business. I'm not sure if this was just a bit of reverse psychology on his part ("if you cannot do this then you are not good enough for this car"), but I do know that he talked himself out of a deal.
So this long story (and I do apologize for the length) leads to a few questions:
- Is it rude to ask for documentation to back up what Sales Consultants tell us or are we just supposed to accept what they say without question?
- This just smacks of the old days of car buying with all the games and secrets. Granted, the Lexus showroom is much nicer but the overall experience was the same. Actually, it was worse - we always bought cars in the past when we went out with that intent in mind. Are all Lexus dealers like this?
- Does Lexus just assume that people are so desperate to purchase their cars that they will accept any explanation that the Sales Consultants come up with?
- Any suggestions for Atlanta-based Lexus dealers who will listen to our questions and treat us with at least a little bit of respect?