Although I unuderstand the nature of this forum, which has been very helpful in learning new things about my ES350, I am very disappointed with the way people talk negatively about this car. If I would have read these forums before purchasing this car, I would have never bought it. I am thankful that this is not the case because I absolutely love this car and I am enjoying it very much. As I have owned Accords, Integras, Pilots, all new in the past, I never thoroughly enjoyed these cars as much as I enjoy the Lexus. This will be my first posting, as well as my last , (maybe) as I realize reading all these negative comments about a car I enjoy so much is detrimental to my overall outlook of this vehicle. Those of you who take care in keeping this forum fresh and helpful, keep up the good work and your work is appreciated. For all of you who have nothing nice to say, shame on you for spending $40K on a car you don't like, however I have a feeling you will find a way to complain about anything. The only advice I have, take it or leave it...RTFM! IMHO.