longislander1

Thanks. I've heard some good comments about Rallye. I was surprised that most of the Long Island dealers other than Rallye have a fair amount of complaints to the Better Business Bureau. I did message Rallye on price and the best they say they can do is $33,500. I think I can do better. My "song and dance" comment was addressing the sales people, not the car. In my brief face-to-face and e-mail contacts with a number of Lexus folks, I haven't found them to be any different or better than the sales people with other makes. Yesterday, one guy tried to tell me that the IS250 takes regular gas. I was also surprised to hear that his dealership doesn't give loaner cars for oil changes. You have to wait around for a couple hours. My Mazda dealer gives free loaners and free oil changes for a $22K Tribute. In fairness to Lexus, though, I'm sure the dealer service is better than Porsche, which has to be the worst relative to dollars spent on the car.

Thanks for the info. I'm curious about your comment on price matching. I've bargained hard in the past on an Infiniti, BMW, Audi, Saab and two Porsches, and have bought from dealers willing to be flexible. Are you saying that Lexus dealers aren't as accommodating? I'm interested in knowing because if they aren't willing to deal, I'll simply work with another brand and not waste my time with Lexus. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

I'm new to Lexus and this forum and would greatly appreciate any help on pricing a new IS250 AWD. I took a look at the pricing guide on here and the invoice pricing information is very helpful. I'm looking to buy (probably without financing), am flexible on color and would be satisified to get a car with no or very few options. I'd like to pay around $30K and have seen on some forums that folks in California and NJ have been able to do so. Here in NY, we've had a mild winter, so there are scads of AWD cars in inventory -- not only this model, but Audi A4, Mercedes C280, BMW xi, etc. While I have a high regard for Lexus, I'm not locked in to the brand. If the price isn't low enough, I'm prepared to walk for a deal on one of those other cars or even a Subaru Outback. As I've talked to some dealers, I've gotten the usual song and dance about scarcity, Lexus quality, etc., etc. I'd like to find a dealer that simply wants my business and is willing to offer a rock-bottom price that allows for some modest profit and minimal haggling from a customer (or am I dreaming?). One other question before I end my post: Why have no IS250s been crash-tested? The car is for my wife and I'm concerned about safety. Any thoughts or experiences would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!