F4DPhan

I put a 3M clear bra on my Black 2008 IS shortly after purchase, based on my experience with my previous Black 2006 IS (which was totaled in a front-end collision, other guys fault...)..

..my 2006 IS quickly became pock-marked during and after the first winter in the DC area, given the large amount of rock-salt on the road.....I was constantly applying touch-up paint, and my car did not look so great...

....with my 2008 IS, I've had not problem with deep gouges & scratches; I feel it really is worthwhile to preserve the front-end finish....the disadvantage is, it is somewhat obvious close up, and you have to be careful applying finishing products (ie, wax), which can make the clear bra look more obvious.

So, it is an individual decision, what a car owner wants- front-end protection with a slight degradation in everyday appearance, versus better initial appearance with likely pock-marking/dings for the near term and future.

Only my thoughts...

Mike

Followed rjt65 recs, and am very happy with the results (with hand application only; sorry, don't have a buffer....)..

The forumula of

- 2 coats DWG

- 2 coats UPFP

- Wax

.....seemed to work very nicely.

Also, per your suggestion, have tried and like the FK1 425- very nice!!!! Great gloss. My only complaint, not very durable, and you need to watch for streaking....thus, I'll use the FK1 when I want the car to look glossy for the night; but for my 'week' cleaning, I'll still stick to the Sonus Acrylic Spritz- good gloss with more durability.

FYI- My 2¢ worth...

Cheers,

Mike

....

Following DDOC and others advise i started using FK-425 spray detailer http://fk1usa.com/products-consumer.htm#express it is easy on and really gives a very deep shine to the car. Using it for about 5 months now...gr8 stuff!

I always try to wash first if not to dirty ok to quik detail it with spray, but beware for scratching. As I have the soft non clearcoat obsidian (black) I am becoming very anal on scratches--trying to instruct wife and 2 gals how to open and close doors is a task! dang rings!

I love Ulitma UPGP, interior guard, and car wash, but the quick detailing spray IMO stunk. I relegated that to getting off birds and bug crap. Worked gr8 for that! ran out when i spilled the dang bottle

Love the Sonus fx 2 and 3 Polish, the Sonus interior cockpit cleaner kit and leather conditioner cleaner. Have not tried the spritz spray....

cheers

Steve and Everyone,

Quick question with regards to this thread and products; if you kinda follow the recs here, (DWG & UPGP), is the Sonus Arcrylic Spritz compatible for in-between washes & treatments?

I used the Ultima Spritz, and was VERY unimpressed with the results. I've used the Klasse products until recently, and the Sonus spritz seemed to work nicely for quick clean-up & detailing.

I agree with other's comments here: Klasse is nice, but hard to work with- thus, I'm switching to the Ultima line.

THanks for any follow comments.

Cheers,

Mike

I'm in complete agreement with Steve; can't do much about chips but touch up. Prevention is the best defense....

...my 2006 Black IS 250 suffered the same problems, especially during the winter, with constant rock-salt & gravel dings on my hood & front end...

...unfortunetely (or fortunately), that car was totaled in June in a front end collision, and I've replaced it with a 2008 copy, BUT, installed a clear bra right after purchase, per my own observations and experience, as well as Steve's sugggestion...

...so far, it has worked out great, although is has not been given the acid test (no significant snow fall, and thus, no significnat salt, sand, etc, here in DC)....

But so far, no dings, and no touch up paint, and the car looks much better than my previous iteration....

SO,....I would recommend a clear bra if highway travel is your norm; it is minimally conspicuous, but the benefits outweigh the downsides...

Just some thoughts...

Cheers,

Mike

All you can do is touch them up with touchup paint. I'd have a clearbra put on the car.

As for the scratches on the doors, can you describe them a little better? Can you feel them with your fingernail?

Steve and Everyone,

Quick question with regards to this thread and products; if you kinda follow the recs here, (DWG & UPGP), is the Sonus Arcrylic Spritz compatible for in-between washes & treatments?

I used the Ultima Spritz, and was VERY unimpressed with the results. I've used the Klasse products until recently, and the Sonus spritz seemed to work nicely for quick clean-up & detailing.

I agree with other's comments here: Klasse is nice, but hard to work with- thus, I'm switching to the Ultima line.

THanks for any follow comments.

Cheers,

Mike

Steve,

Yup, I think that's what I'm going to do; I'm going to have the 3M protectant put on the front too. I'm going to use NAB detailing in Alexandria; ever heard of them or know anything about them? They received good marks in the local Consumer Checkbook....

Thanks.

Mike

You can just have them do the 3M product on that one area of the bumper. I bet it would be cheaper.

Thanks for the comments, much apprecaited.

For now, I think I'm just going with the 3M treatment to the front.

Mike

Does anyone have experience with Lexus 'Bumper Applique'? Never seen it, and wondering:

- how does it go on, and is it easy to take off

- how much of the rear bumper does it cover

- how does it look (good/bad/indifferent)

Here's the Lexus link to the IS version:

http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/accessories...r_applique.html

Any comments, and especially, and images, are most appreciated.

Thanks.

mike

Mike, I saw it on a GS at a golf course in June. I wondered what it was and then I went on the Lexus site. It only covered the top of the bumper where the trunk opening is. I guess it is for when you may scrape the bumper taking things out (or putting things in) your trunk...which by the way I did (I don't have the applique but I think I would have scraped the bumper anyway). Not sure how much it is to see if it was worth it or not. It looked ok to me...but depending on the cost, not sure if I would get it now that I don't have it.

Does anyone have experience with Lexus 'Bumper Applique'? Never seen it, and wondering:

- how does it go on, and is it easy to take off

- how much of the rear bumper does it cover

- how does it look (good/bad/indifferent)

Here's the Lexus link to the IS version:

http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/accessories...r_applique.html

Any comments, and especially, and images, are most appreciated.

Thanks.

mike

Fellow Luxus owners,

Just wondering if anyone (Steve?) can recommend an installer/dealer for a clear bra/front-end kit for a 2008 IS 250 AWD.

I actually had a black/black 2006 IS that was totaled last month (other guys fault,no one hurt), so I got a new black/black 2008 IS 250 AWD to replace it- basically, the exact same car. But I remember the front end & hood getting terribly chipped paint very quickly, just from everyday driving on the DC beltway/I-395, so would like to do a better job of protecting it.

Reading around, is sounds like the cloth/vinyl covers are kinda a bad idea due to buffeting, resulting in scratches over time; and they look kinda funny....but when properly installed, it looks like the clear type should work pretty well.

Some have commented that the 3M brand has too much of an 'orange-peel' look; any other brand anyone can recommend.

So any comments on the clear covers, and recommendations for DC area (Northern Virginia) would be appreciated and welcomed

Cheers,

Mike

Steve et al,

Well, I broke down and ordered a starter kit; hope to get it later this coming week and am anxious to see how it compares to my current Klasse/Pinnacle wax system ....

I'll keep all informed, and try to attach some photos of my 2006 Pearl Black IS 250....DC winter has not been so bad so far, but cold......

Mike

Just wondering if anyone else has used these products and can comment on them (Steve?)....am interested in trying them, but would appreciate some feedback.

...it looks promising, and am currently using the Klasse approach, but always looking for something better.

Thank.

Mike

I have the exact same problem; but it looks like the 'haze' is on the backside/inside of this plastic part.

Thus, although I have not tried to polish the piece yet, it looks like it would have to be removed and polished from both sides.....

..like you, waiting to hear if anyone else has thoughts or ideas.

Mike

Thank you everyone for the reply and suggestions.

I agree, I'm not flying off the handle about it, but I have expressed my suprise at such an occurance for a presumed luxery brand...

...still trying to decide whether or not to repair....

Mike

Dropped off my 6-month old IS 250 AWD for its 5000 mile service, and after 2 hours at the dealer, was horrified to find two prominant puncture-like door dings right next to the driver door handle!!!!! (this, of course, after I had spent all weekend washing off the winter salt& sand and waxing my car....)

Well, the dealership acknowledged the problem, and had a 'dent-guy' right there, so after about an hour, he was able to 'pop' them back out, and overall, its looks almost back to normal; problem is, one of the dings caused chipping of the paint......so the dealer is offering to 'wet sand' (?) to fix the problem, which will require the car to go to the body shop overnight, etc...

My question to the group is, 'is this worth it?' At this point, the door contour is almost perfect, and the paint chip is TINY; so why don't I just put a drop of touch-up paint on it and call it a day? I'm just VERY nervous about leaving my car with the dealership overnight, and possible problems and things that can go wrong with this minor body work....(of course, I could kick myself for not getting a picture of it with my cell phone...)

Any thoughts or insites appreciated....

Thanks!

Mike

Thanks guys; guess I'll tone it down a bit with the 'triple' cleaning until spring...

Mike

Steve and Everyone in the Mid-Atlantic (where salt & sand reign supreme Jan-Mar),

Ok, so I'm sick and tired of my BLACK 2005 IS appearing gray-brown for the last 2-3 weeks, due to all of the salt and sand on the roads here in the DC area.....

....so, my strategy is:

- 'Touch-less car wash' at one of those gas-station car washes; this, rather than the pay-to-scrub self washes, due to the below freezing temperatures (yeah, I know Steve, got to 50 today!)....

- take car home, treat with Optima No Rinse, followed by...

- Poor Boy's Spray and Wipe

- Followed by Sonus/Klasses Acrylic spray....

My rationalization for the two-step no-rinse is that:

- the ONR works great after the 'touch-less' car wash misses (and there is no substiture for rag-on-car for getting the dirt off) the deeper and courser dirt and debris.

- the Poor Boys gets out any last fine dirt/debris & streaks, and seems to have a little moisturizer that adds to the finish (seems to add a small shine to the car...)

and then add a final coat of moisterizer and protectant with the acrylic spray.....

So, don't know how flawed my approach is, but would appreciate feedback, comments and suggestions to preserve a black finish in a harsh, salt & sand ladent winter enviroment....

...of course, I'm planning on a long spring cleaning of the finish, including clay, deep cleaning (preceaded by the purchase of a Cable Porter!), etc....

Mike

Steve,

I agree, I'm trying to keep up with the great 'white death' of salt (gosh, could Montgomery County and the District put any more salt down?????) here in DC, and of course, the threat of snow is on the way for this week...can't wait for spring, when we can REALLY wash our cars and clay, and buff, and scrub, and polish, and detail.....well, you get the idea....

Amnaldpa, cudos to you for detailing your car in ND; I used to live in Rochester, MN, and know what the winters are like in the mid-west/great plains.....hopefully, spring in not that far off....

Cheers,

Mike

Sure, it should be fine.

Bravo to you for detailing in those temps! Mine's a mess, I can't bring myself to even wash it and its been in the 20s here lol.

Steve,

Thanks for the reply and info; much appreciated.

I'll look into the Eagle One Wax, although I agree with you, I generally like to stay within the same 'family' of products while maintaining my car's finish.....

...looks like some clay is DEFINETELY in my future in the next month or so!

Cheers,

Mike

Oh I know what you mean lol

With Klasse or Zaino I always like to stay within the family, My concern always is that if you use quick detailing products that aren't designed to be compatible with the bonding and crosslinking these products do that you'll have issues if you go to apply more Klasse or Zaino. The High Gloss Acrylic Shield should suffice.

What happens after road salt is on the paint is that small particles of it imbed and bond to the paint surface, this is why it feels dry. Mines the same way, only way to do away with this is to clay. I just usually put up with it until spring.

I don't use Zaino or Klasse, I just use wax. I use Eagle One Wax As U Dry after every wash when I'm drying. Its no replacement for waxing obviously, but it does a lot for restoring the just waxed look and feel to the paint and it doesn't take any extra time since you're drying anyway. Might want to think about that.

Hey all,

Looking for comments/feedback on quick detailing chemicals and methods.....

Have been using the Klasses system for the most part, and apply their 'High Gloss Acrylc Shield' after each wash, with pretty good results in terms of shine.....

....but, after my most recent wash, this weekend, after a week of salt and sand here in DC (you know what I mean, Steve), my paint 'feels' dry.....

So, should I be applying some other chemical to moisturize my paint/finish until I get to my spring stripping and refinishing?

I've used the McGuires NXT Quick Detailer spray on my wife's car, and it produces a nice result; should I be using this on my 2006 Lexus IS 250 as well, after the Klasses 'Acrylic Shield'?

Any thoughts, comments, etc, much appreciated.

Mike

Ok:

WW= waffle weave MF towels (got them, they are GREAT!)

MF= microfiber

ONR= Optimum No Rinse

So, what does JW AJt =?

Confused and still learning.....

Mike

Recommended alternative vendors? I'm kinda new on the forum (2006 IS250 AWD from August), so I'm still finding my way around the forum, retailers, chemicals, methods, etc....

Thanks.

Mike

Thanks for the advice and clarifications, much appreciated.

Looks like I've got to put another order to PakShak!

Mike

WIth the coming cold weather here in the East, I've gone with the groups suggestion of using a rinseless wash (Poor Boys) when a standard wash is not possible, and am happy with my initial results.

But real quickly, can anyon comment on:

- How often can it be used?

- Can it be used no matter how dirty the car is, or only light dirt ( I fear when the salt trucks come!)

- Application tips: lots of liquid or just a little?

- Does it strip the wax at all?

Finally, while reading through this and the Autipia Forums and the talk of daily cleaners, I can't figure out what 'ONR' stand for- can someone decipher for me?

Thanks.

Mike

Steve,

Thanks for the suggestions; I'm in Alexandria, so you know the weather conditions!

Also, on the IS, as I mentioned in September, the rear wheel wells have that 'felt-like' liner, and man, does it pick up the fall leaf debris! I've been using a pressure washer every week just to clean out the leafy debris.

Also, can you PM with your recommended detailer info? I never heard back from you in Sept.

Thanks.

Mike

Fellow Lexus Car Care Enthusiasts,

Read thru most of the FAQ, threads, etc, and I'd appreciate a general comment as to 'recommended' exterior and interior scheduled care for 'normal' wear and tear. That is, how often should I performing the various maintenance tasks....

For the exterior, how often to wax (Pinacle Wax), how often to do all-in-one for a new (2006 IS 250) car (I'm using Klasse AIO & High Gloss Sealant Glaze for now, and am happy with it..), how often to strip, polish, glaze, seal and re-wax, etc. Currently, I'm washing at least every two weeks, and waxing every month.

For the interior, I'm using Optimum car care (thanks for the suggestion, Steve!) and Lexol for the leather, 303 for the rubber all weather mats.

Right now, I'm doing everything by hand, but will likely 'graduate' to a Porter Cable 7424.

Any and all comments much appreciated.

Thanks.

Mike

Can anyone give advise as to the best way and chemicals to clean/treat the Lexus rubber/all-season floor mats?

Is the 303 Vinyl/rubber protectant ok, or does this produce too much gloss and slippage?

Hoping for the best.

Thanks.

Mike