I'd say 2,500-3000 off sticker and you'll sleep well with your purchase, depending on the month you can achieve as much as 5000. When you go into negotiate the deal bring up the fact that the restyle is coming next year, and the 04's will be out soon. Just keep assuring them that you don't have to by this car. Show you interested but not to involved in the moment to make an impulse buy. Good luck!!!