debi

I have a new question relating to the Mark Levinson stereo. I am a previous ES300 owner and looking to become a new ES300 owner very shortly. However, I was told that ... the car I want does not exist. I am looking to purchase a 2003 ES300 with the Mark Levinson Audio package. I was told by a few dealers that in order to get the Mark Lev audio, you must get the Navigation system. I do not want/need to Navigatoin system. I was told that I could order it but .. if I do that, my cost will most likely be very close to sticker price - which Im not crazy about paying since the '04s will be out soon and the 03s are already being discounted by between 2500 and 4000 dollars. What about installing after-market? Does anyone know if I can have the same Mark Levinson system installed after I buy the car? If not, can anyone recommend an after-market system that would be comparable? I may break down and get the Nav/Lev - but it seems kinda crazy to pay and extra three grand for something you don't want! Any thoughts, insight, suggestions would be greatly appreciated!