captmike

wait a few weeks. Lexus just announced the intro of a refreshed sc 430 for 06 will shortly be on its way. $59,500 is a more accurate price. Invoice is higher then $55.

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Yes, you are correct in the invoice price. Although Edmunds shows the invoice to be $56,xxx, the two dealers that I went to showed me the invoice to be $57,xxx.

So, $3K OVER "invoice" seems a bit high to me.

Dealer will not budge.

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there are no factory options for the SC (except perhaps a spoiler)

Dealer will not budge.

I just drove the SC430 again....this time with my wife. she agreed that it was a rough ride compared to our E Class.

This salesman stated that the invoice on the car was about $57,700, and produced his documentation on that. Edmonds and Kelly Blue Book and other sites show the invoice to be $54,xxx.

All that this guy would do is about $60,000. I still think that is high.

If it were my choice, I would definitely go with the Lexus SC430 over the Cady.  I think the XLS is over-priced and doesnt look nearly as good as the Lex...plus you can save the extra $$ on some other fun things...(chrome rims, trip to the beach, )

Also, the Lex seems to attract much more attention than the Cady....call the Lexus dealer and speak with the manager about your experience...you might be able to use this to your leverage.

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Drove the SC finally at the dealor. Was vary rough ride compaired to my E class.

The people on the XLR forum say even with the run flats on the XLR it is a smooth ride with it's suspension...unlike the SC's. I will drive the XLR in a week and find out myself.

Yah but a 05 XLR starts at 76k!

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Right now is the employee priceing insentive.....$69,000

BTW, the Lexus dealer wants $61,000 for the SC.

What is most important to you in a car, comfort / performace / price ?

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All of the above

After the jerk at the Lexus dealer in Fresno screwed up my attempt to test drive the SC, I'm starting to consider the XLR.

Of course I'm asking the same question over on the XLR forum that I ask hear and I suppose I should just consider the source...that is to say, what forum that I'm asking the question on. I'm sure that each forum has its dedicated car owners.

Having said that, there is not one person so far on the XLR forum that would consider the SC or SL500/600...some of them have owned both and have said without a doubt the XLR is the way to go.

As a current owner of a 2003 MB E320 I can tell you that it had many problems, it's only now....2 years later that I have gotten all but one worked out.

I demo'ed a SL500 and while I was impressed with it's ride, power, transmission....I was not impressed that there were some squeaks in the are rests on the doors and some wind noise at highway speeds with the top up.

for 60 -70 grand id most likely get a brand new m3 with all the goodies. you'll probably save money too. i also really like the new corvette's. maybe even a porchse. you can get a real nice porchse 911 for that.

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Again....no Automatic retractable hardtop in those cars.

For that kind of money I'd but a new Corvette.

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But the Corvette is not availible with a Auto retracting hardtop.