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i think i found an answer to my problem, here it is:
Swishing Water Noise???
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I am having a strange problem, which is occuring after I went to my
30,000 mile service at the Lexus dealer:
When I drive off, you can hear some kind of "swishing" water sound from
behind the dash, as if water or SOME liquid is transferring itself to a
different location. And it's kind of loud too, so noticeable because
the Lex is such a quiet car.
I'm about to take it back to the dealer, but I was wondering if any of
you have had a similar strange problem such as this. Actually, I
faintly remember reading a thread awhile back about some issue similar to
this one, but I couldn't find it.
I really don't want Lexus to tear apart my car to find it either. If
they can't pinpoint it quite easily, I'm going to grow worried that
they'll want to do some major prying behind the dash or in the engine bay,
on a search mission.
I only hear it when I am pulling off, and sometimes when I am coming to
a stop. It almost sounds like a screw is loose and run amok, but it
sounds more like liquid or even sand/dirt that is changing positions
everytime I pull off.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm........
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04-16-05, 08:58 AM #2
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lol this happened to me too
let me find the thread
here ya go
i hope it the same thing
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...highlight=water
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04-16-05, 09:14 AM #3
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Thanks a ton, TLW, for finding your thread.
So let me get this straight:
You did exactly as Sal said in your thread...taking off radiator cap,
capped off the coolant, started the engine (with radiator cap off), let
car heat up 'til cooling fan kicked in, turned the heat up, let the fan
cycle one more time (with no coolant added), tightened the cap (with
car still running)...and whalaaaaaaaaahhh! It was fixed?!? WOW!
Or do you think it's just best to have the system completely flushed
out and drained?
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04-16-05, 01:16 PM #4
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I tried that before and no luck. Still hear that damn water behind the
dash.
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04-16-05, 01:38 PM #5
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i drained everything out
but's thats only becuase i was working on the engine
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04-16-05, 08:05 PM #6
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When the dealer did your 30k, they drained the coolant like they were
supposed to but did not fill the coolant properly trapping air in your
heater core. Take it back to them and explain that this noise started
after the 30k service. They should know exactly what to do because it is
a well known problem.
Good Luck,
Will
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04-17-05, 09:28 AM #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BkLexZ
I tried that before and no luck. Still hear that damn water behind the
dash.
Out of curiosity, did you turn-up the heat (cabin temp HOT), else the
coolant inside the core, remains trapped along with the the air bubbles.
By the way, there can be other sources of water noise.
Salim
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04-17-05, 10:03 AM #8
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Thanks, TLW and Sal. I believe it has worked. But I will let you know
later this week when I drive the car more. I heard it ever so slightly
one time afterwards, but not the full "rushing water sound" since I did
Sal's procedure.
It took a while for that damn fan to kick in though, like 25 mins. And
then it took another 20 mins for it to cycle again with the heat on.
But it was worth it.
Question: Once the fan cycles and you turn the heat on, do you use the
Auto mode which turns the A/C on, or are you supposed to turn the heat
on without the A/C condensor on? Just curious. I turned it on using
Auto which kicked the condensor on as well of course.
Eventually, 15 minutes in, I turned the A/C condensor off, and left
only the heat on.
I still think it worked but want to know the correct procedure for
future reference.
Again, thanks a TON!
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04-17-05, 10:09 AM #9
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i have the same problem!! they fix it and it comes back after 1month!
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04-17-05, 07:07 PM #10
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Boring details ...
Yes you have been warned
Complete water circuit has two choke points, thermostat and heat
exchanger (hot air supply to the cab). The key is to make them fully open.
Heat exchanger is controlled by cabin temprature set point. The cooling
fan only comes on after the thermostat is open, that is why the we wait
for the fan to kick-on. There are other indicators as well (if you can
safely look inside the radiator, you will notice a sudden surge in
water circulation, indicating the thermostat is open). So why do it twice?
Just for reassurance.
Auto climate control contributes nothing as the a/c compressor clicking
on would be at lower cabin temprature. Unless defrost is slected which
should increase engine load and may be contribute more to the heating
of the coolant.
In any case, it takes a while to heat up the coolant when the cabin
heater is on (which cools the coolant). That is why they say that if the
engine over-heats, turn on the cabin heater.
Word of Advice: If your overflow reservoir does not have coolant above
"min" there is a chance that your coolant circuit will suck in AIR. You
will be plagued by the bubble trouble.
Salim.
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04-17-05, 08:32 PM #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by salimshah
Boring details ...
Yes you have been warned
Complete water circuit has two choke points, thermostat and heat
exchanger (hot air supply to the cab). The key is to make them fully open.
Heat exchanger is controlled by cabin temprature set point. The cooling
fan only comes on after the thermostat is open, that is why the we wait
for the fan to kick-on. There are other indicators as well (if you can
safely look inside the radiator, you will notice a sudden surge in
water circulation, indicating the thermostat is open). So why do it twice?
Just for reassurance.
Auto climate control contributes nothing as the a/c compressor clicking
on would be at lower cabin temprature. Unless defrost is slected which
should increase engine load and may be contribute more to the heating
of the coolant.
In any case, it takes a while to heat up the coolant when the cabin
heater is on (which cools the coolant). That is why they say that if the
engine over-heats, turn on the cabin heater.
Word of Advice: If your overflow reservoir does not have coolant above
"min" there is a chance that your coolant circuit will suck in AIR. You
will be plagued by the bubble trouble.
Salim.
Thank you, THANK you, THANK YOU... for all those boring details. I
think I understand now.
And I never have checked my reservoir, so it may be low. When adding
coolant, can you add regular green-ish anti-freeze, or do you have to add
some special Lexus-brand (reddish?) anti-freeze?
Sal, thanks for all the info. Those details have brought me full
circle.
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04-17-05, 08:44 PM #12
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you should be using the same anti-freeze for the whole system, toyota
long life or extra long life.
don't mix your anti-freeze with the green stuff unless that is what you
used in the first place.
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04-18-05, 07:39 AM #13
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i have a question,
Does our GS have an air bleeder valve to take out air from the system?
Or, to take air out of our system, do as Salim described?
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04-18-05, 07:44 AM #14
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Quote:
Does our GS have an air bleeder valve to take out air from the system?
yes, I think it's near T stat.........
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