Liquid_force Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Hi everyone - FTP'er Looking to replace my old beater/commuter ('88 Tbird turbo coupe) which gave me 283k miles, performed well, and was comfortable. Came across a '93 ES300, 130k mi and the price seems right. Some exterior issues, mainly just minor stuff - scuffs and scratches. Clear coat starting to flake on the trunk. Front leather seats in bad shape. It's a high schooler's car, but the kid seems fairly responsibe. No mechanic, but aware of some costly maintenance items that have been recently taken care of (timing belt, wp). I noticed subtle ticking at idle with the hood up, "characteristic" maybe? The car ran well and drove very smooth. I test drove 3 other cars within a couple hours of the Lexus (Ford, Pontiac, Chrysler, 117-140k). None felt CLOSE to as "solid" as the Lexus. Also noticed a small amount of red fluid (trans?) on the fins that run around the perimeter of the air filter housing. Probably no more than an ounce or two. It seemed that could be a spot where a spill might collect if someone were trying to add fluid, but the owner wasn't aware of anyone trying to add fluid. Cause for concern? At 130k, and assuming average maintenance what other things might I want to take a closer look at before making an offer? Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALES300 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 If you have a mechanic let him check it out? I think the problem with those years are the oil sludge which is a built up of oil if not properly maintained. I usually check the rotors/brakes that tend to wear out quick and if they have the timing belt replaced at 90,000 miles. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid_force Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 If you have a mechanic let him check it out? I think the problem with those years are the oil sludge which is a built up of oil if not properly maintained. I usually check the rotors/brakes that tend to wear out quick and if they have the timing belt replaced at 90,000 miles. Good luck! Thanks for the tips. Seller says TB and WP were done a few thousand miles (2-3 I believe) back. Seems out of line with typical maintenance schedule - it either went past by several thousand or he's not being honest. Is the 3.0L an interference engine? Front brake pads appear pretty new, braking was strong and smooth. I'm trying to get ahold of the seller to line up a pre-purchase check out. I want to take it for another test drive. From what I've read they're known to have cooling issues. It's cool out today, but maybe a good dose of stop and go traffic might get it heated up a bit if there's a problem. Where should the gauge normally run? Less than 1/2? My other concern is the a/c. I realized being a '93 it would have been an r12 system. I hope it's been converted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALES300 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 If you have a mechanic let him check it out? I think the problem with those years are the oil sludge which is a built up of oil if not properly maintained. I usually check the rotors/brakes that tend to wear out quick and if they have the timing belt replaced at 90,000 miles. Good luck! Thanks for the tips. Seller says TB and WP were done a few thousand miles (2-3 I believe) back. Seems out of line with typical maintenance schedule - it either went past by several thousand or he's not being honest. Is the 3.0L an interference engine? Front brake pads appear pretty new, braking was strong and smooth. I'm trying to get ahold of the seller to line up a pre-purchase check out. I want to take it for another test drive. From what I've read they're known to have cooling issues. It's cool out today, but maybe a good dose of stop and go traffic might get it heated up a bit if there's a problem. Where should the gauge normally run? Less than 1/2? My other concern is the a/c. I realized being a '93 it would have been an r12 system. I hope it's been converted. If he has receipts indicating that he has done the TB & WP that's great. I still let mechanic look at it and he can test drive it and tell you about the brake pulse feeling and transmission runs smoothly between shifts. You can look at it and it seems okay but the mechanic will take off the wheels he will feel the surface of the rotors and check the pads. Also, if he opens the head gasket to check for oil gel solutions build up. I'm not to sure about the 3.0L an interference engine? It's a 2.6L the other cooling issues should read between 1/2 or less that's normal. If it is a great deal than go for it. Just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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