Johnsoils

John,

I was under the impression that the factory Toyota WS fluid was a 'life long' fluid & based on what I have read & heard never needs flushing / replacing?

Sorry for the delay on responding to your question, I have been on call this past week. Toyota and many others are going to the "filled for life" moto on their transmissions. As a service provider I don't like it, as if a customer comes in once a year for an oil change, how do I assure that they have not had a leak and that their transmission level is in the proper operating range. I think they are simply saving a few dollars on installing dipsticks, due to the fact that most of the people out there today don't ever lift their hood to check anything.

There are ways to drain and flush many of these transmissions, but again the OEMs are trying to make it difficult and want the work to come back to the dealership. One of my friends had a new Caddy and the dealership did not have the tools or knowledge on how to service or flush the transmission. The transmission had 50K on it and the guy wanted it serviced. Well it got serviced by his AMSOIL dealer and is working fine today.

If you are one of those folks that strives to keep up on vehicle maintenance and fluid changes then there is a way to do it. Only time will tell how long a filled for life transmission will run without routine service and oil changes. I know of folks that ran the old GM transmission 150K without a service, but they were toast in the end. I know folks with old GM transmissions with over 300K that flush them routinely and don't have any issues.

In closing AMSOIL spends a lot of time and money on research and product development. They give one of the longest drain intervals on the ATF fluids that I've seen. I like to get the break-in oil out between 30-50K and change the original filter/screen. Then refill with AMSOIL ATF and your set for 100K of normal driving.

Thanks,

John

Great news Lexus Owner Club forum members. AMSOIL has just introduced a new low viscosity ATF fluid that meets the Toyota WS specification.

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

AMSOIL Synthetic Low-Viscosity Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATL) is engineered to exceed the requirements of GM, Ford and Toyota where low-viscosity oil is required. The highly-specialized properties of this light-bodied fluid provide outstanding performance without compromising protection, even in severe operating conditions. Automatic transmissions have become increasingly complex as vehicle manufacturers strive to improve efficiency while satisfying consumer demands. Smaller, smoother-shifting transmissions with longer fluid life capabilities and heavier load capacities are now standard. Traditional ATFs, however, are unable to meet these extreme requirements, and new fluids have emerged with each new advancement in transmission engineering. AMSOIL, with its original introduction of a synthetic ATF in 1980, remains the leader in transmission fluid quality. AMSOIL Synthetic Low-Viscosity Automatic Transmission Fluid is formulated with the highest-quality components to exceed the most stringent industry standards. The quality and performance of AMSOIL Synthetic ATF is guaranteed.

Thermal Stability

Hot temperatures are no excuse for poor reliability. Naturally heat-resistant and heavily fortified with anti-oxidants, AMSOIL Low-Viscosity Automatic Transmission Fluid exceeds the most demanding oxidation requirements. It delivers outstanding protection against sludge and varnish deposits that clog narrow oil passages and contribute to clutch glazing. AMSOIL Low-Viscosity ATF protects hot-running transmissions.

Cold-Temperature Fluidity

Cold, thick automatic transmission fluid lengthens shift times and reduces energy efficiency (fuel economy). AMSOIL Synthetic Low-Viscosity ATF is wax-free and delivers extraordinary cold-flow performance (<-60°F pour point). It helps improve shifting response and energy efficiency while reducing warm-up times.

Outstanding Wear Protection

Varying speeds and loads causes torque multiplication and extreme stress on gears and bearings. To prevent wear damage resulting from insufficient fluid film, AMSOIL Synthetic Low-Viscosity ATF is formulated with high film strength (shear stability) and a select anti-wear/extreme-pressure additive that develops a boundary layer of protection between metal surfaces. Even though AMSOIL Synthetic Low-Viscosity Automatic Transmission Fluid is a low-viscosity, fuel-efficient fluid, it has demonstrated its ability to protect as well as or better than higher-viscosity fluids in the most severe industry tests.

I hit the high points of the new product above. I could not upload the new product data bulletin due to the file size. If you would like a copy emailed to you, please let me know. It contains additional information and product specifications. If you have any questions about the new product or it's application, please let me know. You can order the product through my updated web site at: www.johnsoils.com or call me for assistance and wholesale pricing options.

Greetings everyone!

Well the new website is finally up and running. The web master still has a couple corrections to make, but should be corrected Monday. The site is linked to the AMSOIL store, so all product information is alway current. I have additional pages that we will be adding in the near future.

Thanks everyone for your support!

John Kahrs

Independent AMSOIL Dealer

www.johnsoils.com

Greetings All,

Summer time is just around the corner as is summer vacation travel. There is no better time to make the switch to AMSOIL. The AMSOIL products have been serving customers for more than 35 years. AMSOIL has been giving a 25,000 mile and/or 1 year drain interval for 35 years. The products speak for themselves. You will not find a better lubricants and filtration products anyway. Several of you have commented on how well AMSOIL products have performed for you, and we appreciate the positive feedback.

AMSOIL products provide you with proven value. Giving you the best wear protection, fuel economy, best protection from extreme summer time temperatures, longest drain intervals and best value in today's market place.

We appreciate all the questions, comments and feedback we have received from the Lexus Owners Club. We also appreciate your business and look forward to serving you in the future.

Thank you,

John and Leah Kahrs

Independent AMSOIL Dealers

Greetings forum members,

Several of you have contacted me directly or through my website with questions about AMSOIL. I appreciate your questions and positive feedback on the AMSOIL products. Please keep the questions and interest coming. That's why I'm a sponsor on forum; to inform and educate people on the quality of AMSOIL products. Picking up a few friends along the way is also a big plus!

Thanks again for allowing me to be part of the forum and all the good information from your experiences. They have helped myself and my customers greatly.

Thanks,

John

Greetings forum members,

Just a reminder that the AMSOIL money-back guarantee offer on the PI fuel system improver expires the end of May. I continue to hear positive feed-back and success stories from my customers on how well the product works. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions about the product or money-back offer.

Thanks,

John

Greetings, in this forum I have posted an informative sheets on the effects of heat on automatic transmission fluids compiled by the General Motors Corporation. I have also attached a sheet on how AMSOIL stands up to the heat vs. conventional oils; and an AMSOIL Universal ATF product bulletin.

Tonight I'm reattaching the GM study. I previously had to pull it down due to my attachment space limitations. Sorry for any inconvinience this may have caused.

John

GM_ATF_Fluid_Oxidation_Study.pdf

I see a few members have been using or looking at the fluid capacity look up sites. What do you think? Is this a useful tool? How can I improve on it.

Thanks,

John

Randy,

Thank you for your comments. I have posted various filtration publications that I have run across (GM, AMSOIL's tech bulletin, Filter Council web site and more to come). Yes, everyone has a new twist on a old hot topic. The biggest issue with comparing filtration is comparing apples-to-apples. Some companies use absolute, some use nominal, some use beta ratios. The bottom line as a consumer is read up and build a case study of what is best for your application. AMSOIL uses ASTM testing criteria for all their lubricant testing, and the results are repeatable and usually unchallenged by the competition. AMSOIL uses strict SAE testing criteria on the air and oil filters as well, and to my knowledge has not been challenged on their published testing results.

I have customers that swear by the PureOne oil filters. I respect and value their opinion and choice. From what I've read and researched they are an excellent filter for the money. To my knowledge no one else is offering a 25,000-mile or 1-year filter change interval like AMSOIL is doing. The filters work and perform as advertised. I have cut open many filters that come through my shop; my advice is the old saying "you get what you pay for". I highly recommend that you steer clear of the low dollar filters offered by some of the discount and chain stores. I've seen issues with Fram, Car Quest Value Line, Champ, Micro-Guard. Not to say that there's not others out there that have seen other brands fail. I have not found any failed filters with the A/C Delco, Motorcraft, Mopar, WIX, Baldwin, Hastings, Donaldson, Toyota, Honda or AMSOIL filters. I have cut open AMSOIL filters with 26,000-miles and two years of service on them, and the media was still intact and no signs of failure were found. I have seen WIX filters with 8,000-miles on them still intact and no signs of failure were found.

I'm not out to start any filter wars on this posting. I'm looking for folks that have filter information to post and share with others to help everyone become more knowledgeable on what out there today. I cut apart approximately 80 oil filters annually and inspect how well they are holding up. Most of the filters that I open up have between 3,000 and 5,000-miles on them (with the exception of the extended life AMSOIL filters).

You mentioned the acids in engine oil causing or accelerating wear. Yes, acid formation is an issue and can accelerate problems inside an engine. Will a filter stop acid formation? No full flow filter that I have ran across advertises that they stop or reduce acid formation. Some of the bypass filtration systems out there claim they can reduce the acid levels in an engine as their media is a dense cotton media that will absorb water and acids from the oil. If acid is a concern in your application I would highly recommend looking into a by-pass filter system. Typically acid problems are most common in diesel engine, natural gas or bio-fueled engined. I have not seen any acid problems in a gasoline engine that were not manageable with a high quality oil and reducing excessive idling. Getting the engine warmed up to drive the moisture out of the oil and crankcase is key to reducing acid formation in any engine. Controlling excessive blow-by is another. Without good ring seal combustion gases and by-products will enter the crankcase adding to the acid problem.

Thanks for your response and opinions on the postings. If you have some data or a link please feel free to post it.

Sorry about your air filter issue. AMSOIL is constantly working on getting new filters out. I can see if I can find the dimensions and see if we can cross reference something that will fit in the air box. I have a couple other customers looking for air filters for their 2008 model vehicles. I'll try to watch for the release of a filter for your application.

Thank you your input and please keep in touch.

I appreciate that John.....please keep me posted if you hear anything.

Just checked the application guide for your ES330. AMSOIL is still not listing an AMSOIL high efficientcy air filter for the ES330. I'll keep checking, as I hope to see new filters released this spring.

Thanks,

John

Greetings Lexus Owners Club forum members,

Tonight I'm attaching a handy link to the AMSOIL online vehicle application guide. This online vehicle application guide will give you fluid capacities for your vehicles, as well as the recommend AMSOIL product part numbers, NGK spark plugs part numbers and Trico wiper blade part numbers. This is a very complete look-up guide. New 2009 model applications are currently being populated, so if you have a 2009 please check back if your model is not populated yet. They are in the works.

Please provide feedback and let myself and other forum members know what you think of this free fluid capacity look-up guide. As always, please let me know if you have any questions or need assistance with any fluid related issues.

Please use this link: http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1378...p;page=appguide

Click on the red button, then type in your model year, select your vehicle make, select your vehicle model, select your vehicle engine, review your application information on the right reading pane. Fluid capacities and fluid related plug torque values are at the bottom of the page. You can also print this information for your future records and use. I use this daily and it is very accurate.

Thanks,

John

Greeting folks,

I have another new web site set up for finding your vehicle fluid capacity. It is: http://www.enginefluidcapacity.com/

This one is easier to remember. Please pass it on to your friends as well.

Thanks,

John

:D Greetings Lexus Owners Club Forum members,

I putting a new info post up tonight to pass on the good news. AMSOIL has had a price decrease across the board on their lubricants. What does this mean? It means that now the oil that offers the best protection and best value is now even a better value.

If you would like pricing on AMSOIL products, please feel free to contact me via email. If you want to talk via phone, simple email me a phone number and a time convenient for you and I'll call you back.

Thank you for allowing me to be a part of your forum. It's a wealth of knowledge, and I've made some new friends. I'm looking forward meeting more of you in the future.

Thanks,

John

Josh,

Look at these attachments from Oil Analyzers. They are the oil analysis lab that AMSOIL uses. The newest brochure is the 2008 file, the others contain some excellent information so I like to always have folks refer to them. If you want to purchase a sample kit(s) through my web site you can. There are links to the AMSOIL store on my web sites. Or I have some basis kits to a third-party lab in South Dakota that does great work and has a quick turn-around time. Let me know if you want me to mail one of these basic kits out. I would think I could mail one for around a couple dollars.

Let me know if you have any question, or need any assistance with purchasing an oil analysis kit.

Thanks,

John

g1465_sample_interpt.pdf

g2047_Oil_Analyzer_Users_Guide.pdf

g2047_New_Oil_Analyzers_Brochure_2008.pdf

Here's a copy of a recent post I put up on a heavy equipment forum.

Oxidation, Nitration, TBN and TAN numbers explained

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Dirthog28,

Oxidation (evidence of lubrication breakdown). The causes of oxidation are: overheating, over-extended oil drain intervals, improper oil type, combustion by-products, blow-by and coolant leaks. A lower oxidation number is good, a higher number is indicating that the oil is breaking down. Conventional oils are typically flagged excessive or condemned at 30 and synthetics lubricants at 50.

Oxidation occurs when lubricating oil undergoes a chemical change under the influence of high operating temperatures or while operating over extended drain service intervals. This can create acids which cause corrosion, increase viscosity and deplete additives. The process is accelerated by heat, metal catalysts and the presence of water, acids or solid contaminants. Oxidation can also cause filter plugging, lacquer build up, sludge deposits, overheating and increased wear. Oxidation is measured by an FTIR scan. The effects of a high oxidation number are: Shortened equipment life, lacquer deposits, oil filter plugging, increased oil viscosity, corrosion of metal parts, increased operating expenses, increased wear and shortened equipment life.

Nitration occurs during the fuel combustion process when combustion by-products mix with the engine oil. This occurs during normal engine operation but is also a result of abnormal blow-by. The products of nitration are highly acidic. Their effects include accelerated oxidation, oil thickening, corrosion, increased wear and poor engine performance. Nitration is measured by infrared analysis or FTIR. Other indicators that may suggest abnormal nitration

levels are a rapid reduction in the oil’s reserve alkalinity (Total Base Number). The effects of a high nitration number are: Accelerated oxidation, increased exhaust emissions, acidic by-products formed, increased cylinder and valve train wear, oil thickening, combustion are deposits and increased TAN.

Total Base Number (TBN) depending upon the application, different oils have different blends of additives designed to maintain the oil’s lubricating properties and protect equipment. Base (alkaline) additives are present in automotive engine oils to neutralize acidic by-products of combustion. New oils start out with the strongest TBN they can possess, depending upon the base oil and the additive chemistry used to make them. Over its service life, a motor oil will lose its ability to neutralize acids. Measuring the TBN strength of the oil is very important when extending oil drain intervals, as the TBN value indicates the capability of the additives to protect the engine from acidic corrosion. The standard test for measuring an engine oil’s acid neutralizing strength, or Total Base Number, is the ASTM-D 4739 Reserve Alkalinity Test. TBN is expressed using a value number, which decreases as nitration and oxidation values rise over the service life of the oil. Because an oil’s characteristics are interdependent, TBN depletion reflects other characteristics of the engine oil that are out of acceptable range. This may indicate that the oil’s service life has ended and the oil should be changed. The effects of a low TBN number are: Increased TAN, oil degradation, increased wear, corrosion of metal parts.

Total Acid Number (TAN) Is the lubricants acid content. Causes of a high TAN number are: High sulfer fuel, overheating, excessive blow-by, over-extended oil drains, improper oil type. The effects of a high TAN number are: corrosion of metallic components, increased oxidation, oil degradation, oil thickening and additive depletion.

If you want more information or a copy of the Oil Analysers INC. User's Guide to Oil Analysis Services, send me a private message with your email and I'll send you a copy. I promise, no spam or junk email.

I have gone about 7200 miles on my Mobil 1 EP, and I want to get an analysis done on this oil. where can i go local to me to have one done? is there any place like a jiffy lube type chain that will analyze it too? or do should i ship it somewhere. I know my oil is good still, gonna change it next weekend at about 7500 miles. Just want to see it in print.

Thanks in advance,

Josh.

Josh,

If you can find a heavy equipment dealer or farm implement service center in your area you should be able to get a sample kit locally from them. I could ship you a basic sample kit for $15.00 plus the postage. An advanced kit is around $25.00. Is there anything in particular you want to test for? A basic kit will get you wear metals and TBN. An advanced kit will give the basic plus oxidation, nitration, fuel dilution and most of the additives.

Are you familiar with oil analysis and how to interrupt the results? I have been posting a lot of oil analysis information on the heavyequipmentforums.com. You can look under the lubricants section and find recent posts on oil analysis. I have information I can email you on oil analysis as well. I'll try to copy and post some of my post on that site over here. It's a great topic and thanks for bringing it up here on the Lexus Owners Club.

Thanks,

John

Comparative Motor Oil Testing 2009

John

Rookielexus,

Welcome, if you do not have prior vehicle service records I would recommend changing the engine oil and filter, transmission pan service to insure the transmission is in good condition and then perform a transmission fluid exchange. This is an easy process to complete if you have mechanical skills and do your own service work. If not any competent shop should be able to complete for you. I would also recommend at some point changing the fluids in the differential.

The engine holds 5-quarts of 5W-30 or 0W-30 oil; the oil filter is an AMSOIL EaO57 or WIX 51348; the air filter is a WIX 46673; the cabin air filter is a WIX 24905; the transmission will hold approximately 4-quarts if you drain the pan only and approximately 10-quarts to exchange the entire system; the rear differential holds 1.9 pints of 75W-90 or 80W-90 GL-5 gear oil; and the transfer case holds 1.9 pints of 75W-90 or 80W-90 GL-5 gear oil; the cooling system hold 10 quarts of coolant.

If you would like to view and print this information, you can go follow this link to the AMSOIL online fluid capacity look up: http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1378...p;page=appguide

I'm an Independent AMSOIL Dealer and Lexus Owners Club forum sponsor. I'm here to assist you with your vehicle fluid questions, and can provide you with AMSOIL synthetic lubricates and filters if you are looking for the best synthetics for your vehicle. Feel free to contact me if you need assistance or have additional questions.

Thanks,

John Kahrs

Independent AMSOIL Dealer

john@johnsoils.com

www.johnsoils.com

www.yoursyntheticsolutions.com

(319) 240-3546

Greetings Lexus Owners Club forum members,

Tonight I'm attaching a handy link to the AMSOIL online vehicle application guide. This online vehicle application guide will give you fluid capacities for your vehicles, as well as the recommend AMSOIL product part numbers, NGK spark plugs part numbers and Trico wiper blade part numbers. This is a very complete look-up guide. New 2009 model applications are currently being populated, so if you have a 2009 please check back if your model is not populated yet. They are in the works.

Please provide feedback and let myself and other forum members know what you think of this free fluid capacity look-up guide. As always, please let me know if you have any questions or need assistance with any fluid related issues.

Please use this link: http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1378...p;page=appguide

Click on the red button, then type in your model year, select your vehicle make, select your vehicle model, select your vehicle engine, review your application information on the right reading pane. Fluid capacities and fluid related plug torque values are at the bottom of the page. You can also print this information for your future records and use. I use this daily and it is very accurate.

Thanks,

John

I had to pull the Severe Gear and Long Life Gear Lube spec sheets tonight to make room for a new post. If you would like a copy of these data sheets emailed to you, please let me know and I'll email them to you. Thanks, John

John,

Any idea how the new Castrol Edge synthetics stack up to Amsoil? It's pretty popular overseas & should be hitting the North American market soon if it has not already.

I haven't seen or heard of any test on the new Castrol Edge. I'll keep my eyes and ears open. Thanks for the heads up on a new product.

Just seen the first Castrol Edge commercial on TV tonight. AMSOIL just released some new data and testing on some of the new oils. Looks like Mobil 1 stepped up their Mobil 1 product. AMSOIL still comes out on top. See the attached. No test data on the Castrol Edge. I bet it will be tested in the near future. I'll keep you all posted. I just tried to post the latest results on AMSOIL 10W-30 vs. the popular competitors, but was unsuccessful over the slow connection I have tonight. I'll try to get a better connection and get this posted.

John,

Any idea how the new Castrol Edge synthetics stack up to Amsoil? It's pretty popular overseas & should be hitting the North American market soon if it has not already.

I haven't seen or heard of any test on the new Castrol Edge. I'll keep my eyes and ears open. Thanks for the heads up on a new product.

Hi John,

Thanks for sharing your information.

Randy and Bonnie, I found the article I was looking for in the April 2006 AMSOIL Action News magazine. It is a monthly publication for preferred customers and dealers. Look on pages 8, 9 and 10 for the article on differential break-in wear. It explains the importance of performing a fluid change after the break-in is complete to extend the life of the differential.

Please feel free to look through the rest of the Action News magazine. Each month is has a highlighted product and other articles on customers, dealers and products.

Thanks again for participating in the forum.

John

Action_News_April_2006.pdf

Sorry about your air filter issue. AMSOIL is constantly working on getting new filters out. I can see if I can find the dimensions and see if we can cross reference something that will fit in the air box. I have a couple other customers looking for air filters for their 2008 model vehicles. I'll try to watch for the release of a filter for your application.

Thank you your input and please keep in touch.

I'm waiting for Amsoil to offer their EA air filter for my 2005 ES 330.....the strange thing to me at least is that Amsoil made one for my previous car.....a 2006 Subaru Forester XT Turbo.... And nothing for the ES (which has the same engine as the Camry...a car that sells in the area of 400,000 - 450,000 annually & alot of them are V6's).

That one just leaves me shaking my head. :whistles:

I have e-mailed Amsoil directly several times as well & no additional info can be offered.

BillyShaft,

Thank your for comments. I will try to clarify some on the items you mentioned.

1.) AMSOIL is not an expensive solution to a problem, it is the most cost effective lubricant on the market. It provides users with wear reduction of 40 - 50% or more when compared to other lubricants, fuel economy improvements, better cold flow capabilities and extended draining intervals to name a few. AMSOIL offers extended fluid exchanges which also save the user money. AMSOIL is typically half the cost of what most of the OEM vehicle manufactures charge for their OEM synthetic differential gear lubes and comes with a guarantee on drain intervals. AMSOIL products are formulated and tested to meet or exceed the industry standards. Most of the new vehicles on the road today call for a GL-5 gear oil. AMSOIL meets all the specs for GL-5. I assume that the recognized standard that you are speaking of is the API (American Petroleum Institute) or equivalent.

2.) AMSOIL has been guaranteeing their extended drain intervals for the last 35-years. Mobil 1 used to give a 25,000-mile drain interval back in the 80's when I used it. Vehicle OEMs have been extending their drain interval the past several years. GM has been recommending using the oil-life monitor to gage engine oil changes. Typically the GM oil life is 6,000 to 10,000-miles depending on the driving conditions. The European OEMs have been doing extended oil drains for years. They have been way ahead of the US in this area.

AMSOIL guarantees their ASL 5W-30 gasoline engine oil for 25,000-miles or 1-year (which ever comes first). I perform oil analysis on my own vehicles and have driven the AMSOIL gasoline engine oils out for 16-months and 26,000-miles before the analysis indicated it was time to change the oil due to the TBN (total base number) being depleted. AMSOIL will go the distance, I've proven it out on my vehicles, and other customers vehicles.

As for being discovered by and endorsed by every major parts manufacture on the planet; most people that make parts don't want to see customers using superior lubricants that can reduce the wear by 40% or more, because it would cut into their lively hood (making and selling new parts). I stop in and talk to repair shops all the time and the mechanics will say "yeah, I've heard of AMSOIL, it's pretty good stuff"; or "I use synthetics in my vehicles because they are the best, but I don't tell my customers to use it because I would be cutting my own throat, I make my living replacing worn parts". Quick lube owners want to see the vehicle in their shop every 3,000-miles or 3-months. Most admit that they don't make a dime on the oil change, but do clean up on all the extras they find wrong with your vehicle. They make their living selling you repairs, air filters and other items that we think we need every oil change.

If AMSOIL didn't do all the things they advertise or say they can do, they would have been put out of business a long time ago. AMSOIL is still a family owned and operated business based in Superior, Wisconsin. Their values and customer loyalty are some of the strongest you will find out there today. They are amazing people; from the founder Al to his son and son-in-law. The future of AMSOIL is in good hands, and is here for the long haul. Again, who else backs their products with a written guarantee.

Again, thank you for your response and hopefully I've shed some light on the 35-years of AMSOIL giving their customers not only the "First in Synthetics", but also the best synthetics on the market today.

Thanks,

John

Randy, truth is, Amsoil doesn't even submit their products for independent testing to industry standards.

As you point out, coming up with an expensive solution to a problem that doesn't exist while at the same time voiding your warranty by:

1. using products that have not been tested and approved by a recognized standard

and

2. extending the change intervals beyond manufacturer recommendation

...just seems a bit insane to me.

Amsoil has been out now for what? 25 years? 30 years? If indeed it were a panacea for all things requiring lubrication, it would have been "discovered" by now and be embraced by every moving-parts manufacturer on the planet.

Randy,

Yes, AMSOIL has performed some actual tests and studies on several GM pickups. I'll have to go back through the AMSOIL action news magazine and find the article and send it to you and post it.

Thanks for the questions and interest in AMSOIL products.

John

Greetings forum members,

Here's a new topic on gear lubes. I have attached a copy of the AMSOIL gear lube white pages. It contains ASTM testing results on the popular gear lubes out there today. The test were performed by an independent lab and the results are shocking to say the least. You don't always get what you thing you are getting. Some of the products that are advertised to be the best, actually tested out the worst.

Also, I have posted some links below to the AMSOIL store for more product information and purchasing prices. AMSOIL full synthetic gear lubes are very competitive in price at retail. In most cases nearly half of the OEM price and are higher quality. Remember these prices are retail and AMSOIL does offer several purchasing options which are at wholesale pricing. Please contact me and I can assist you with setting up your wholesale membership account.

Link to AMSOIL 75W-90 Severe Gear

http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1378...=storefront/svg

Link to AMSOIL 75W-110 Severe Gear

http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1378...=storefront/svt

Link to AMSOIL 75W-140 Severe Gear

http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1378...=storefront/svg

Link to AMSOIL 75W-90 Long Life Synthetic Gear Oil

http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1378...=storefront/fgr

Link to AMSOIL 80W-90 Synthetic Gear Oil

http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1378...=storefront/agl

I'm just curious, I didn't see any actual testing - just lab tests. Can Amsoil produce any test results that are conducted in actual vehicles that are typical daily drivers? In all the vehicles I've owned, I've never had a differential gear failure under normal driving conditions, with normal and prescribed maintenance, or due to the gear oil failing to perform. This study may illustrate that Amsoil is a better gear lubricant, but how much better?