I bought a 2002 SC430 in Tampa last March. My experience was that no one wanted to negotiate much on price. I offered $50,000 for a 2002 that was listed at $52750, and the dealer refused and let me walk out. The very next day, I found one on eBay that was being listed by a Suburu dealer in Tampa, and picked it up for $46900. This one was in much better shape, although it had a little more mileage. If you want a used SC430 and you don't want to spend a bundle, watch on eBay. I watched for about three months before I found the color, mileage, price, etc. that I was looking for but it was well worth it. Many dealers will get these cars as trade-ins and some (in the case of the Suburu dealership in Tampa) will basically take wholesale for it in order to clear their inventory of a vehicle their patrons simply are not looking for.