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  1. Everything you need to know about RX's A/C condenser If you have a problem with a leaking A/C condenser from rock damage, the following detailed post will help as I just went through the experience. Design problem with RX's? Yes thanks, I did see that reply about jerry rigging a mesh under the front bumper to protect the condenser. Sure seems like we shouldn't have to do that to protect it properly! Seems like a design problem to me. Maybe the condenser should at least have a stronger mesh built in on the front as the fins are very fragile. Even bugs damage the fins as my fins were all very smushed in the places exposed. Shop Fraud? The dent was very small. (1-2mm) I almost wonder if the shop punched it in so they could ring up a big repair bill?? I looked at it under a powerful magnifying glass and it looks like it was! Of course, hard to prove. Might be best to try and watch the mechanic diagnose your A/C problem if you can. Estimate for repairs including unnecessary items I later discovered the shop estimate I got included parts ($243.88) and labor (1.9 hours - $169.10) to install a receiver/drier part in addition to parts and labor for the condenser ($423.40/$186.90). Turns out the receiver drier is included in the condenser so over $400 of the estimate was extraneous! Estimate also included dye ($10.50) which isn't needed and should only be added if needed to diagnose a leak. My leak was already "diagnosed." When I confronted the shop owner (Bill's Auto Electric in Campbell, CA) he said he couldn't possibly spend the time to check to see if a drier is needed since every car is different and it would impact his profitability too much if he had to do that. What a joke! I quickly ended the call and simply said, "well then I won't take any more of your time." Instead I'll spend my time following up with a complaint to BBB. Insurance coverage After searching other posts, I discovered insurance may cover the damage under comprehensive. Assuming it was rock damage since I couldn't prove intentional damage, I pursued a claim with my insurance. It was approved and I was only responsible for my deductable. They also said it won't effect rates since it's comprehensive. More reasonable estimate for repair from body shop I then contacted the body shop recommended by insurance company and got a MUCH more reasonable estimate. $486.57 vs. the $1328.92 from Bill's Auto Electric for the same job. To be fair, body shop used after market condenser accounting for $160 of savings. But still WAY cheaper. Moral shop around! Body shops can replace the condenser and the nice bonus is that they usually include a car wash. Non OEM Condenser issue Which brings me to the non OEM condenser issue I have. The OEM condenser is black. When I picked up my car, the after market condenser they used is silver and you can see it as it stands out behind the grill and under the bumper. I wish they had told me in advance of this difference. Other than that, I was very happy with the service provided, so I mentioned it when picking up my car but didn't formally complain. Maybe I'm being over sensitive. Has anyone else had an issue with the after market condenser color? Should I pursue getting it fixed with the OEM condenser that is black?
  2. I too had a puncture in my RX300 a/c condenser that appears it might be from rock damage OR might be a SCAM? (See below). Estimate is $1330 to fix. Seems high. Comprehensive insurance cover? Lastly, seems like a design flaw to me. Several questions and comments: 1) Is this estimate reasonable? Some details: Condenser $423 Replace 2.1 hours $187 Receiver Dryer $244 Replace 1.9 hours $169 Evacuate/recharge $125 Freon $26 Dye $11 Oil $11 Diagnosis $76 (already paid this) Total inc tax $1330 Seems high all around. Condensers on the web go for about $160. Is there a problem with them? Any better shops to recommend in the San Jose CA area? 2) I looked at some web sites for parts and some say the dryer is included on the condenser. What's the story? Is the drier included on the condenser and if so then why is there an extra 1.9 hours labor and $244 part charge to fix it in my estimate? 3) Any experience with comprehensive car insurance covering this damage? I read some posts indicating it might be covered. Anyone try to submit a claim? 4) Finally what's to stop the car repair shop from punching a hole in the condenser? I looked at the damage in a magnifying glass and it looks like someone took a punch to create the hole? Sure seems like it could be an easy scam. Anyone have experience with that? Here's a picture of what my damage looks like. See attached file for picture 5) Sure seems like a design flaw to me when so road debris is free to hit the condenser. As you can see, even ignoring the hole, there is plenty of damage to the cooling fins. Why not put a simple grill over it to protect it? I saw another post suggesting how to make one yourself which is a good idea but should be done by the manufacturer! Thanks in advance for your comments and insight. Rob
  3. I've got the exact same problem. eli2k and j3ffr3y, much appreciated if you can post what you ended up finding out was the cause. I'm sure you've had it fixed by now. Thanks
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