I just purchase my wife es330 with prem Pk< No Nav. List is about 35,000, Invoice is 31,386. New York area. I paid $31,700 plus the dealer is paying my last payment of lease on a honda ($335.00) So The total purchase price I'm paying is 31,365.00 Not bad. right. I would say between 0 to $500 over invoice price is good, for this car. So cars you can get good deals and buy it below invoice paid. But Lexus and some hot car infiniti G35 coup good luck. I have a G35 coup and paid $715.00 for the MSPR. And I could of made money the day I picked it up, because someone wanted to buy it from me for $1000.00 more then I paid. I didn't bite, because the taxes was about $3000.
allan