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Don't make personal comments about individuals or groups of people, its really not that hard and not that complicated. Everyone else who shares your political ideology seems to be able to do it fine. Talk about the issues, not about people.

THIS statement is the problem. As I am someone who is voting Obama and lives in a high population area...am I supposed to assume your statement means everybody who lives where I do and votes as I do...just not me? I am someone that is very well versed in the issues of the day and this election, and I have shown time and time again here that I'm actually more well versed than you are. Yet...I disagree with you. Its because we disagree, not because I'm an idiot. Keep your statements about the issues...not personally about the people doing the voting. I could say I'm worried because of all the uneducated, racist, women hating, homophipic and xenophobic hicks in the low population areas who will vote for Romney...and that would be as ridiculous a statement as the one you made quoted above. Remember that a presidential election is not a popular election. You need to look at the polls in the individual battleground states, thats what matters. Thats why intrade has Obama as a 65.2% chance of winning: http://www.intrade.c.../?eventId=84326 I also might suggest you read Nate Silver's 538 Blog: http://fivethirtyeig...ogs.nytimes.com He's a statistician that made a name for himself predicting outcomes for Baseball. He has Obama at 85.1% chance of winning. If you read his blog entries you'll read a lot of his rationale as to why this race is not as close as it seems, and why for Romney to win it would have to mean all the local polling is fundamentally biased against him. In 2008 he predicted the wins and margins very accurately in 49 out of 50 states, and was also very accurate during the 2010 midterms. The guy's obviously got liberal leanings, but if you just look at the raw data you see where the issue for Romney lies.

I'm not talking about who SHOULD win, I'm talking about who is likely to win. I just don't see how Romney is going to get to 270 electoral votes, basically every poll would have to be fundamentally flawed. 12 battleground polls came out last week, Obama was ahead in 9, tied in 2, Romney was only leading in one...NC. The only battleground state where Romney has any kind of a lead is NC, FL is really close. He can't win if he just wins FL and NC. As for Libya, I don't think its really an issue. In having discussions with people over the last few weeks...I haven't heard the word "Libya" until right now. While I agree it was handled very poorly, its not a big enough issue for me to totally betray every political stance I hold and vote for Romney. I can't just change positions at will like he can ;) Plus, I think the only Presdient we've had more willing to do whatever it takes to win the Presidency than Romney was Richard Nixon. If the Libya deal had happened under a Romney re-election campaign...boy you want to talk about coverups? History has shown us these polls are pretty accurate. I think believing that theres a concerted effort out there to give untruthful responses to polls conducted by multiple agencies in multiple states' date=' when that has never happened before leading up to a Presidential election is a pretty big stretch.[/font'] You need to learn some respect for people who disagree with you. In case you haven't noticed, there are people here who hold different viewpoints than yours, including me. I absolutely will not tolerate you insinuating that we are stupid, that we don't care about this country, or that we care about "entitlements" more than we care about the future of this country just because we disagree with you any longer. What a f&cking stupid thing to say, I pay more in taxes than the average family in this country earns, to insinuate that I am voting for Obama because I wan't "entitlements" is absurd. I will put my worth and my contributions to this country up against yours any day champ. Any day. Disagree with me all you want, but I will not tolerate you insinuating that I, and those who agree with me politically, are people who care more about ourselves and our entitlements than we do about the future of this country. That is total bullish!t. At some point we have to grow up in this country and start trying to find strength in common ground again. Look at Chris Christie and President Obama. I'll tell you what, I never thought much of Christie until this hurricane situation but my opinion has changed a lot. Somehow the rest of us can have this conversation, but as soon as you get involved it goes to !Removed!. Go play with your grandbabies.

The question they ask is who are you voting for, Obama or Romney. Nothing biased there. The issue for Romney is, in order for him to win basically every poll has to be wrong.

HAHA Rob! In all seriousness, for Romney to win the electoral college would take a fundemental collapse in polling. Polling in all of these swing states would basically have to be wrong. Obama has been consistently ahead in Ohio, and without Ohio I don't see how Romney can win, no Republican has ever won the White House without Ohio. He may be pretending they can win in PA...but to me that shows how concerned they are about Ohio. Polls in VA are routinely returning Obama positives. CO, same, IA same, NV same, NH same. Of the battleground states, the only ones showing Romney up are NC, and maybe FL...but its close. I just don't see it happening for Romney. Out of curiosity, those of you that think Romney is going to win...what's the rationale? How do you think he's going to get there?

I think the issue is NC that you're not of the leasing mindset. Really if you are going to lease successfully you need to know: 1. I will wind up trading cars in 3 years anyways 2. I will not buy the car at the end of the lease If you buy the car at the end of the lease, in general, you would have been better off to buy it in the first place. You can always simply extend the lease you have also if you need a few more months, they'll do that. The issue with a 72 month finance vs a lease is if you know you'll want out of it in 3 years, you may be upside down.

Cost don't bother me! I ain't buyin ;)

Damn...I'd say you did just fine!

I don't think you're crazy at all...best to wait for what you want...

I am a long time leaser, but that article is full of deceptions as you said. Makes me wonder if that woman has bought a car in the last 20 years. Financing "requires 10% down"? Since when? If anything, financing is cheaper than leasing at drive off because you don't have to pay the first month's payment. As far as taxes, most states charge sales tax on the whole purchase price of the vehicle when leasing same as buying, MD does. I maintain that if you are going to trade cars every 3 years or so anyways, then leasing may be a better alternative than buying, especially so if you can write a lease off as a business expense.

Very common, should be covered by warranty no problem.

Hey buddy, sorry to hear about your 2010, but exciting about your 2013! I'm looking forward to reading your thoughts on it. I like the graphite upgrade 10 spoke 17s. If you get the luxury and premium/navigation package the car should come with those wheels.

I think this is a great idea! Its a bet! I haven't seen one that had Obama at less than a 60% chance of winning.

What they used the first time was pretty good. You can't expect a natural product thats handled with bare hands to last for 16 years...

Glad to hear it can be repaired Jim!

Yeah but thats a portable Garmin unit, we're talking about a built in OEM nav system. Totally different items and built to completely different standards. I've been on Lexus forums for over 10 years, as well as other auto forums with significant discussion of built in GPS units and failures, and while I have definitely heard of instances where the screen has failed on Toyota/Lexus nav systems, I have never one time heard of a chipset or hard drive failing. I'd say thats something thats pretty unlikely.

So Lenore IS voting for Obama Jim, he's voting for the winner! Lenore's vote doesn't count anyways because he lives in CA ;) Not from an ideology perspective, but do you really think Romney's going to win Lenore? The issue is that its not a popular election. When you look at polls in battleground states, most specifically Ohio, where Obama's up pretty consistently, and has a 30 point lead in early voting. If Romney looses Ohio, its very hard for him to get to 270 electoral votes. Go to http://www.cnn.com/e...r#?battleground and play with the figures. I think Romney is going to win FL & NC, VA maybe...that leaves NV (and a lot of media have changed NV to lean Obama from toss-up_), Colorado, Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin, New Hampshire. If you look at the polls in those states, Romney has an uphill climb. If Romney wins FL, NC & VA Obama wins NV, IA, WI, NH & CO...he wins...without needing to win OH. If he wins OH, which looks likely...he can loose NV, CO & NH...if Obama wins NV and FL...he wins without winning any other state. If Romney cannot win Ohio...its VERY hard for him to win, and Obama is consistently up in the polls. If Obama by some chance wins FL...Romney cannot win IMHO. Although I would be surprised if he won FL...

I've been on auto forums for along time, and have never heard of a GPS chipset going bad...

Good luck!

My 2010 is getting ready to roll over 40k miles...no brake issues.

No filament in an HID bulb... But I agree, it's likely the bulb...I'd replace both so they match...

The Bridgestones are crappy tires, no doubt. I had those same tires on my 2010 when it was new, and replaced them after about 15k miles with the Michelin Primacy. The Bridgestones are okay tires when they are new, but go downhill quickly as they age. I really think your issue is going to be more the 18s than it is the Bridgestones at this point unfortunately.

The dealers never check the spare, same thing happened to me, also on a trip. Welcome to the club!

I think Jim's rear quarter panel is actually the decklid being torqued a little more than its the quarter panel itself... Yeah do you have any pictures Paul? Sounds like a total to me...

I agree, don't take the cash out...