hey guys, i appreciate all the advice u guys are giving me, seriously! yeah the owner is pretty set on 14500... yeah, i will defeinitely check out the little details and try to get it lower. i will check out the car this weekend. i carfaxed it... it said there was a faulty odometer report. it went from 15k to 6k and then in two years it shot up to 30k. carfax said it might be a misread when the data was input. but carfax said the car still qualifies for insurance if the odometer was rolledback. iono, not too big of a deal here? also, it used to be a lease vehicle? any comments?