Hello,
Well, you know what they say about opinions......
Could the speakers in the ML systems have been designed better in some cases? Absolutely. Should you avoid playing rock or rap on your Lexus ML system? NO, I never said that. What I said was that you would be best off listening to the music the way the engineers and artists who recorded it intended. I assure you their studio monitors don't have the bass bands boosted some 10 dB or more druing mixing. I'm not touting the limitations of any system as an asset. I'm just letting you know where the weaknesses are here so you can avoid the major headache of damaged equipment. It just so happens that I personally feel that maxing out the bass on a system that measures damn near flat from 20Hz to 20kHz before you even touch it is misguided to put it mildly. In this case (and lots of others at all price points for that matter) it also happens to be hazardous to your gear. You seem to be implying that natural frequency response equals sterile sound. If that were the case, then all live unamplified music would sound dull and lifeless, which is a ridiculous suggestion. Sounds to me like you're blaming some other system problem(s) on the fact that certain things are being done very well. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.
MrL
Hey there MrL. Before I reply, I want you to know that I see this as a conversation between two fairly knowledgeable people reviewing the different points of audio components and sound reproduction, and not an argument over opinions.
What do engineers know what the artist intended? And have you listened to music today? Your telling me that bass is not the intended sound? Hip Hop, Rap, House, Metal, Urban, Techno, R&B, Alternative....all are emphasizing the lower frequencies my friend. I even have some Jazz that will test the dynamic headroom of some of the most powerful amps and leave them crying for you to stop. And that is leaving the EQ flat.
How they mix a track has nothing to with a flat reproduction curve. Moving the bass levels up does not cause damage. Distortion causes damage. So long as you stay within the decibel level limits, and power consumptions, you should be fine. In fact, you could very easily damage the same system on a flat EQ by simply pushing the system beyond it's power limits for extended periods of time. Bass has nothing to do with it, other than the fact that bass levels require alot more power.
Only if your gear doesn't have enouph headroom. Which is what I was saying about the ML system. They didn't provide enouph headroom in the stock amps for the real user. And your also correct in that they could have used better speakers. But here again. aftermarket has allways pushed car manufacturers. Even as good as the ML system is, for the same money you could get a much better system aftermaket.
I actaully said that accurate sound reproduction, not natural frequency responses. You can sit there and tell me that the ML No. 432 sounds like a Jolida JD3000A-PP211 tube amp? Not even close.......Look at the CD. VERY ACCURATE, but a real audiophile prefers vinyl albums.( Just without the pops and crackles.)Because they actually sound better than a CD, even though a CD is more accurate. Why? That ambient warmth. It's not the note itself, it's the spaciousness between the notes. The depth of the soundstage. And I have to tell ya, that kind of sound is intoxicating. When I can close my eyes and see the wooden floor stage with my ears, and feel the back of the audience with the hairs on the back of my neck. Let me tell ya,
My audio system does this very well.