thank you, you are the man. I am not sure if there is a leak or not because the dealer refused to recharge the system and said they needed to convert it over to r134a and all that jazz. My famliy knows a reputable mechanic who said he'd have his friend look at it and more than likely cost a lot less to fix, but I just wanted to know what was involved so I could know if I was getting ripped off or not. Well thank you for your detailed response