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Have you tried pulling up on the seat while holding the raise button? It might just be stuck or something.

can you send me the pictures on your computer to my email? mark.prieb[at]gmail.com

Thanks!

What are the buttons on the first picture? I can't read it. Where did you find these pictures? What did you google? lol, sorry I asked like 3 questions there.

Thanks for the great pictures! I don't know what it is, but I find it interesting to learn about rear controls. Its really cool that they had this back in the 80s!

I have one question though: What do the buttons in the first picture do? Do they go along with the buttons in the armrest or did they discontinue the armrest buttons in 1992?

The last picture looks very similar to the current lexus LS rear controls. But I guess since lexus is owned by toyota, it makes sense.

My parent's Toyota Crown (1986) (in Trinidad) has controls for the whole stereo in the back seat but in addition, inside the armrest pocket in the rear seat, it has an individual tape player and radio tuner. It also has rear heated seats and massage on the passenger side in the back.

The other Toyota Crown they own (1992) has an onboard TV/Computer/Navigation (stock) and even has in infrared remote like you'd have in your house.

Really!?! I'm finding this all so interesting. I never knew that! Could you send a picture to me of the rear controls if possible? Thanks

That seat is crazy! From the looks of the front "damage" I would have never guessed that would happen.

Here is some trivia about radio remote controls:

Some of the more expensive European made radios had a connection for a simple remote control at least as far back as the mid 1950's.

The 1956 Mercedes 190SL I owned had a remote control on the steering column that changed radio stations on its Becker Mexico radio -- it looked a bit like a turn signal lever. Some of the more expensive 1950's era (and newer) Mercedes sedans had simple (foot operated!) radio remote controls for back seat passengers. The remotes could be connected "in series" so that, in theory, every passenger could have his own.

The really "sick" part of this story is that I just now went out to the garage and found one of these old foot operated remote controls in a box -- it is unused and looks brand new. Even sicker, I bought it decades ago and I knew where it was stored.

Wow, thats very interesting! I never knew that they had that feature that long ago! Now if Lexus were around in that time period, I'm sure that they would have come up with something just as cool. ;)

It controls the whole stereo from the back.

Thanks for letting me know. Although this feature would be nice for executive people, it wouldn't be practical for a family. Because the kids in the back would be messing with the radio, ect. Then you would have to lock the rear controls (pressing and holding mode down). You think Lexus could have created a system like SUVs where the rear passengers can listen to something besides what the front passengers are listening to. This setup is a lot more practical.

Thats just my opinion though.

What "rear radio buttons" are you talking about? The radio controls in the backseat armrest of the LS430 with the relatively rare (and costly) Ultra Luxury package which allow the rear seat passengers to scan radio stations/cd tracks and control audio system volume?

yeah, thats what I'm talking about. I'm just curious if it works like my SUV where the people in the back can listen to something different than the front.

I guess no one else has this feature.

I don't own an LS, but I've noticed the rear radio buttons. How does this work, because I don't notice any headphone jacks. Does the rear audio just play through the rear speakers? Just curious, thanks

They Do Actually:

(jk, i photoshopped it)

yeah, battery life is important.

Well its good to see that most people can get a range of 30'+

You're entitled to your opinion, but I'd thank you not to phrase it that way on the ES forum. Again, they sell more ES's than all other Lexus sedans COMBINED, and we all chose to purchase ES's over other Lexus models. To be honest, we don't want to listen to you disparaging our decision. We don't post on the GS or LS forums telling people they should have bought different models, and we expect the same courtesy. Thats not a request.

Very well put! I think we should all get along, because a lexus is a lexus, no matter what model it is.

One thing I have not seen mentioned is the resale value. In 5-6 years the resale on the ES will be a lot more than a Camry which should more than make up the difference in the initial cost. You are driving a nicer car, with more amenities, and everything else that makes the ES a better car than a Camry, which is a nice car in its own right.

Good point!

only 3 votes?

This may be true, but when someone asks you what you drive, what sounds better... a toyota or a lexus?

I read in the manual that the remote works from 3 ft away. That seems really close, compared to all other factory remotes. Even my 94 Lincoln Continental's remote works from 30 ft away.

Thanks :)

So what was the actual problem with the system? I didn't really catch that.

The lock cylinder may be worn. Also, make sure your wife turns the key all the way and holds it there for a second or two.

Hi, I bought a remote off ebay for my 01 ES and it hasn't arrived yet and I have a question.

I know these programming steps programs the remote, but does it also "verify" the remote key with the engine imobilizer system? Because I want to allow this remote key to not only unlock/lock the car, but also start the engine once I get it cut.