Thanks for the reply. I didn't say $10k for this particular car. If it was 100%, I was going to offer $8500, which would be a fair price for a mint 02. Hell, I would have even payed $9k.
I've been searching for over a month and clean cars are hard to find at this price point unless I want an 07 Civic, Camry or a 2010 Fit or Corolla.
I drove a near mint 05 or 06 ES330 a few weeks back. Beauty. 62k @ $11.2k asking price. Sounded like an old guy on the phone. I neglected to ask if he was original owner. But when the ad is on autotrader (vs craigslist) and states clean title, no accidents, I assume the car will match up.
The guy looked sketchy from the start, like a car salesman. As we're driving along, turns out he works for Ron Tonkin (huger dealer in Portland, they even have a Ferrari store). He previously worked at another large dealer and that's where he snatched the ES when it was in on trade 2 yrs prior. So no maintenance history available. As we're driving, it's down to about 1/8 tank and he says we should stop and get some fuel. I take this time to look at the car under the lights (it was nearing dusk when I arrived at his house). Looked clean, just a few knicks and light scratches. I check under the hood and fluids, body, tires, interior...then the trunk. It was damp (hadn't rained in a week). As we're driving along, I ask when was the last time he washed the car. He said about four days prior. Why do you ask? he says. Well, the trunk carpet is all damp, it's wet by the spare. He goes into "act surprised" mode. Blah blah.
Ad to that there's no unlimited CarFax anymore and then I'm shelling out $50 per five vins. Of course dealers have unlimited CarFax...but the few dealers I've tried to play ball with won't drop the prices for jack. There's two ES330's that are sitting at $12.9 and 13.6 for over a month and refuse to cut a deal. I don't know how it is back east, but in my local where rust is non-existent, Honda/Toyota's are gold, and priced accordingly.