MS_ES330

Great posts and nice install job! I just need to build up the courage....

It works!!?? Cool. Can't wait for the pics

Did the XM kit ever come out?

Do you notice a difference in performance between premium and mid-grade? How about fuel economy?

What kind of gas do you use on your ES?

I think the reverse is true for the TL. For some reason, they tend sell for a higher price in CA than in the Northeast.

I bought mine last week for $700 under invoice. No trade in. In Southern CA.

I do find it fun to drive. The ES does have some power, enough oomph to move when you want/need to. Also, the Levinson/Nav cars come with the adjustable suspension (from sport to comfort) if that is something you're mom might consider. Another consideration for me was that I wanted a comfortable car for my daily commutes. Weekend sport driving was a secondary consideration. Not sure if that applies to your mom.

Looking forward to hearing your results.

There is a $750 cash incentive for recent graduates. You can verify on edmunds.com Lexus is also offering 2.9% financing for qualified buyers. I recently purchased a 2004 ES330 w/ Levinson Audio & Navigation (MSRP $38,500) for under invoice (less than $34,000 + TTL). I seriously considered the 04 TL and it was a hard choice but I went with the Lexus for the following reasons: -3rd gen. TL in its first model year and bugs are still being worked out. -TL w/ Navi hard to find for less than $1000 of MSRP. (I figured my true cost to own would be less with ES330 after residual value is factored in) -ES330 definitely had a noticeably more supple ride. And very quiet. -ES330 felt more mature than TL (I'm 34 years old) I'm sure your mom will be happy with either car. It was a tough choice for me but I do really love my new ES330.