Gunner45 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Just got back from a 800 mile trip over to Kingman, AZ for my brother-in-laws funeral. We just traded an '04 ES330 for a '09 ES350 and this was the first long drive. What horrible seats in the 350. My gawd, my back was toast after 2-3 hours driving. It's a 6 hour drive each way. Any thoughts as to improving the lumbar on these? My wife was complaining after just an hour or so. I'd love to stuff a couple inches or more of foam into the lumbar area since the factory lumbar seem totally worthless. Anyone done such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_es350 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Just got back from a 800 mile trip over to Kingman, AZ for my brother-in-laws funeral. We just traded an '04 ES330 for a '09 ES350 and this was the first long drive. What horrible seats in the 350. My gawd, my back was toast after 2-3 hours driving. It's a 6 hour drive each way. Any thoughts as to improving the lumbar on these? My wife was complaining after just an hour or so. I'd love to stuff a couple inches or more of foam into the lumbar area since the factory lumbar seem totally worthless. Anyone done such? might not be the lumbar seats bottoms are pitched way down in back.....tooo "bucketed" try pitching the seat up in the back...so more flat....if you haven't done that already...lumbar will hit in your back more in the lumbar area is my guess good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexBob2 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Just got back from a 800 mile trip over to Kingman, AZ for my brother-in-laws funeral. We just traded an '04 ES330 for a '09 ES350 and this was the first long drive. What horrible seats in the 350. My gawd, my back was toast after 2-3 hours driving. It's a 6 hour drive each way. Any thoughts as to improving the lumbar on these? My wife was complaining after just an hour or so. I'd love to stuff a couple inches or more of foam into the lumbar area since the factory lumbar seem totally worthless. Anyone done such? Seat comfort is one of those subjective areas. What one owner loves, another can't get comfortable in. Good luck in finding an adjustment or solution to your problem. Would you consider changing cars if you and your wife can't find a solution? I love the front seats in my ES (had an '07 and now a '10) and found both great for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Sorry to hear about your brother in law... As for the seats, to me the seats in the 2010 are an improvement over my old 2003...which were also excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420benz Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I drove a 2011 350 and about one hour later drove a 2011 genesis.The Genesis was much more comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I didn't see much difference in the comfort department between the ES and the Genesis. The Genesis is sportier than the ES and rides more like a BMW 5 series vs the really supple ride of the Lexus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaside55 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 The dilemma of the universal posterior! I've driven my 07 Ultra about 95k in 4 years, commuting about 100mi. RT 4 days/week, and agree with LexBob2 that you need to try out many combinations of seat positions for at least 1-2 hours each to evaluate. I'm tall, 6-5, and for me, the seats are perfect- but only with the thigh bolster fully extended and the inflatable lumbar fully inflated. I also lean back quite a bit, so my seatback is raked back. The back seats are pretty awful for long trips, however(complaint from the in-laws), so I had two lumbar pillows made at a local leather company in matching hides for about $100. Solved their problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj8708 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I didn't see much difference in the comfort department between the ES and the Genesis. The Genesis is sportier than the ES and rides more like a BMW 5 series vs the really supple ride of the Lexus... For my part, Volvo has the firmest seating, yet the most comfortable over a long haul of say 8 to 10 hours. Their lumbar support is very good, and the seat back height flows well into the head rest for a seamless full back support. On the other hand, I would always go for the Lexus ride over anyone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I'd love to see some pictures of your lumbar pillows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420benz Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 YES: Please post pictures of those pillows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEXIRX330 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I'd love to see some pictures of your lumbar pillows! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW03ES Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 That does sound wrong doesn't it? LOL Hey baby...show me your lumbar pillows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexBob2 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 The OP hasn't checked back in. I wonder if he and his wife found a solution to their problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjy834u Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 lumbars have been giving issues for quite sometime now. not a news to me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnd38 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Totally agree! Hot, Uncomfortable, Poor seats!! Might as well sit on a wooden stadium bleacher seat. POOR!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexBob2 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The seat comfort on ANY vehicle is subjective, you really have to try them out BEFORE buying and determine if they are comfortable for you. As far as the ES350, I've had two and both my wife and I are comfortable in the front seats, especially on long trips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawkin1 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 My reading this post is rather timely, I just drove from Hilton Head Island to Indianapolis today. The trip was about 800 miles and the only three thoughts I had about the seats were A. the lumbar is perfect B. the pitch doesn't go far enough (meaning, I wish the back of the seat would go down further and the front higher - to crush me into a human taco), and C. changing from heated to cooled helped make the 12 hour drive more agreeable. I am 6'2" and the seats are just a dream compared to my former car, a 2007 Prius - you want to talk about uncomfortable.... I only owned the car for 16 months and still have nightmares about those seats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEXIRX330 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 B. the pitch doesn't go far enough (meaning, I wish the back of the seat would go down further and the front higher - to crush me into a human taco) I wish the seats in almost every auto I have ever had would do this more! My seats in my GX are as close to perfect as I have ever had but if I could just get the front up just a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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